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Old 25th Mar 2006, 16:37
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Flying Pay

I'm curious to know a couple of things about flying pay. If I get selected to fly as a fighter controller will I will get more flying pay than a Warrant Officer loadmaster who could have spent 30 years doing that job?
Seems a bit strange but a no-brainer if its true.
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Originally Posted by egdg
I'm curious to know a couple of things about flying pay. If I get selected to fly as a fighter controller will I will get more flying pay than a Warrant Officer loadmaster who could have spent 30 years doing that job?
Seems a bit strange but a no-brainer if its true.
I think you will find that most Macr ALM's of 30 Years will be on the PAS now so I they will earn more than you even when you get flying pay. The difference is that your flying pay will stop when you go back to a ground job, as you are not Aircrew..........................
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Originally Posted by ratty1
The difference is that your flying pay will stop when you go back to a ground job, as you are not Aircrew..........................
Nice one
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Last 2 posts said it all really, topic over.

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Old 26th Mar 2006, 10:08
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Why on earth do you want to be a fighter controller?
Is it to work in a hole in the ground with no windows or fly a race track in an aircraft ....... with no windows?

I'd love to be a Wg Cdr FC............... but I couldn't afford the pay cut!
 
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Apart from the fact that Commanders don't get flying pay
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Go play with your 'golden rivet'

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In this day and age why do we still have flying pay? I have never been paid extra for fixing the jets so why should you get more for flying them. Surely this is another hangover from WW2, a bit like parachute pay. I would have thought you winged ringers got paid quite enough for your services as it is.
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Dogfish, my dear chap, I fear you are about to get bantered back to the Stone Age...
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Bring it on
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If flying pay was to compensate for requiring higher life insurance premiums, then as a large number of grow-bags spend much of the working day flying a desk (Skiving off early for the rest of it), then flying pay should be stopped for those on ground tours, as extra life insurance premiums are not required for being earth bound.

If 'Desk' pay was required, the Blunties would be paid a fortune.

But as we all know, the RAF is run by aircrew for aircrew, and as that is unlikely to change, then you should either put up with it, or go back and do better at Skool.

Maybe flying pay is paid so that the occupant of a grow-bag can go private to have it surgically removed when leaving the services, thus looking less of a Tw*t in civvy street.
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 16:35
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Originally Posted by Dogfish
In this day and age why do we still have flying pay?
Those of us on PAS don't get Flying pay..............
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Ah PAS, the officers that have been fitted with a Spine.
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 16:40
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Ofiicers?............Didnt you know NCA are invited to join these days?
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I've got to agree with the guys who want to do away with Flying Pay. That way they would need to increase my basic wage to encourage me to stay and I would get a better pension, oh that would cost more . I dream of PAS.
I thought flying pay was to retain aircrew as it would cost more than that to train new ones all the time? I'm sure the bean counters make sure it is the best deal for the service.
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Didnt you know NCA are invited to join these days?
Yeah, never understood that one; not like there was ever a retention problem - massive exit to the airlines, etc.
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 16:49
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Flying pay is officially there as a retention measure. Its very simple - if I don't get flying pay which brings my salary up to a reasonable level I sell my skills to the airline industry.
To quote a response to a senior officer a few years ago:
"Sir, you can't buy loyalty, but you can buy bums on seats."
PAS don't receive flying pay as their salary is considered to be increased to a level which will retain them.
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 16:57
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I thought you got paid a retention bonus to keep you in? Ten grand plus I believe. As for the extra insurance I thought that SRIPs was there to help offset the extra premiums. When you get senoirs who only fly a couple of times a month how can their flying pay be justified?
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But there are only a limited number of civvy aircraft seats for the bums who fly planes, therefore if all the bums in the RAF left to fill them, then the new bums would have nowhere to go, so would (if flying is so good and great) stay with their bum on a Martin Baker. so would accept pay at a level that a Techie can only dream off.
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Now you are starting to worry us with your obsession with Aircrew bums.........................
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