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Prior to the new system, FP (additional pay) was taxed but never pensionable
This was a big anomaly which, for more than 30 years after it came to light, the Treasury (Inland Revenue) fought and avoided
This was a big anomaly which, for more than 30 years after it came to light, the Treasury (Inland Revenue) fought and avoided
The difference with the PAS is that the government have now chosen to make all of our pay pensionable - and even backdate it if you have joined the AFPS05!
However, I'm not sure how the tax man will view my AVC stash now that I'll be getting about the maximum pension as well! Anyone know the answer?
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[quote=Ken Scott]LJR
I also think that other branches, such as Engineers who all have to be graduates, should be paid different rates, similar to the branch system for other ranks.
Ken,
My understanding was that all officers got the same rates due to the 'Officer first, specialist second' approach. Naturally excluding medics, dentists and chaplains - the other 'specialist branch [legal] does not attract enhanced rates. Those 4 branches could be described as 'specialists first, officers second' - hence the SERE cse rather than IOT.
The branch system for other ranks no longer exists. My understanding from when it did exist was that it a) allowed the officers to make meaningful pay increases throughout their second career rather than getting stuck on the top whack early on and b) recognised the skill sets that they had which newly promoted Flt Lt's who had been in 20 years less than them wouldn't have.
Back to flying pay: I can understand the arguments against it (I am not a pilot btw) but to all who argue for it being stopped for ground appointments I would like to point out that it goes down after each promotion, and even after certain amounts of time within the rank at Gp Capt and Air Cdre level (stops altogether at 2*). Surely this must be (at least in part) in recognition that there are less air-based appointments, whilst still acting as a retention incentive?
I await the incoming flak...
I also think that other branches, such as Engineers who all have to be graduates, should be paid different rates, similar to the branch system for other ranks.
Ken,
My understanding was that all officers got the same rates due to the 'Officer first, specialist second' approach. Naturally excluding medics, dentists and chaplains - the other 'specialist branch [legal] does not attract enhanced rates. Those 4 branches could be described as 'specialists first, officers second' - hence the SERE cse rather than IOT.
The branch system for other ranks no longer exists. My understanding from when it did exist was that it a) allowed the officers to make meaningful pay increases throughout their second career rather than getting stuck on the top whack early on and b) recognised the skill sets that they had which newly promoted Flt Lt's who had been in 20 years less than them wouldn't have.
Back to flying pay: I can understand the arguments against it (I am not a pilot btw) but to all who argue for it being stopped for ground appointments I would like to point out that it goes down after each promotion, and even after certain amounts of time within the rank at Gp Capt and Air Cdre level (stops altogether at 2*). Surely this must be (at least in part) in recognition that there are less air-based appointments, whilst still acting as a retention incentive?
I await the incoming flak...
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Who is moaning? PAS!!!!! its bl**dy great
Boy15... think you missed my point somewhat... what I don't understand is those who don't get the point of flying pay. They need to either get over the fact that they don't get it, or work a bug ger site harder and go through the training to get it... if they are good enough.
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Couldn't agree more. What is this thread hoping to achieve. Isn't it blatently obvious that if we as war fighters earnt the same cash as OC PSF, we'd bail to BA ASAP.
No, hang on, my mistake - we're all war fighters first!!!
Doh!!
Mr Branson, Heeeeeeeellllpppppp.
No, hang on, my mistake - we're all war fighters first!!!
Doh!!
Mr Branson, Heeeeeeeellllpppppp.
