Bl**dy Rugby
Originally Posted by Flap62
Oh, I see. I'm very sorry. Didn't realise that Eng Ret was on first name terms with all of the officials.
My point stands.
My point stands.
ie not offensive to anyone but the PC brigade. Perhaps the linesman was officiating against the Sassenachs (OED n. & adj. Sc. & Ir. usu. derog. an English person) NB Derog meaning derogatory ie insulting. Anyway the linesman obviously thought the player had gone into touch by the way he clearly raised his flag!!
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Anyway - well done to Ireland (and France....)
I think pulling the plug on the 6N coverage in the southern hemisphere is a ruse to make you think we are good in Europe!!! (Trust me - you have nothing to worry about!!)
Anyway - it was cold on the touchline, but here are some piccies:
I think pulling the plug on the 6N coverage in the southern hemisphere is a ruse to make you think we are good in Europe!!! (Trust me - you have nothing to worry about!!)
Anyway - it was cold on the touchline, but here are some piccies:
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Fantastic photo's.
...We (England) were unfortunately cr*p. Which is a shame, 'cause the talent is there, but stupid, basic mistakes ruined the game (well, for me), with a little touch judge help of course.
Agree with bringing on the 7's. I'd hate to play NZ right now, but who knows in 18mnths??? Bring it on (Forever the optimist)
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Fantastic photo's.
...We (England) were unfortunately cr*p. Which is a shame, 'cause the talent is there, but stupid, basic mistakes ruined the game (well, for me), with a little touch judge help of course.
Agree with bringing on the 7's. I'd hate to play NZ right now, but who knows in 18mnths??? Bring it on (Forever the optimist) D
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Yep - the first Ireland "try" was interesting as the ball was right next to me on the touchline. It was so obviously on the line (and the touch tudge put his flag up for a 1/2 second!) that I didn't take any pics of the ball being grounded! (doh).....Cohen looked like he had been mugged......
As for Robinson, thought I would get a pic of him in his seat - just in case it is the last time he is in charge!!
Loads more via the link on my profile..... inc England v NZ/Aus/Samoa
As for Robinson, thought I would get a pic of him in his seat - just in case it is the last time he is in charge!!
Loads more via the link on my profile..... inc England v NZ/Aus/Samoa
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From the link on previous page:
" England are set to rest experienced stars "
Who would they be then ?
" England are set to rest experienced stars "
Who would they be then ?
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PC lot read this and sqirm.
Beagle: What is the origin of the term WOG. Is it an acronym?
Rugby enthusiasts.
Irrespective of the dodgy decisions England were poor. They never made it past the 3rd phase without knocking on and stopping the game. They are one dimensional and lack the ability to play wide expansive ball in hand rugby that the Wallabies and the All Blacks do. The stand off was poor missing at least 3 kicks (8 points) and failed to create moves or even reach touch with his kicks. The English attack resembled flat Rugby League style, I was expecting the 5th tackle hooter most of the time. The referee missed Sheridan constantly driving in with his left shoulder thus collapsing the scrum. At left wing Cohen lacks the qualities in defence (and attack for that matter) that are required at this level of rugby.
England need a good clear out in the management and coaching departments. Sooner they start the better.
Beagle: What is the origin of the term WOG. Is it an acronym?
Rugby enthusiasts.
Irrespective of the dodgy decisions England were poor. They never made it past the 3rd phase without knocking on and stopping the game. They are one dimensional and lack the ability to play wide expansive ball in hand rugby that the Wallabies and the All Blacks do. The stand off was poor missing at least 3 kicks (8 points) and failed to create moves or even reach touch with his kicks. The English attack resembled flat Rugby League style, I was expecting the 5th tackle hooter most of the time. The referee missed Sheridan constantly driving in with his left shoulder thus collapsing the scrum. At left wing Cohen lacks the qualities in defence (and attack for that matter) that are required at this level of rugby.
England need a good clear out in the management and coaching departments. Sooner they start the better.
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Gimme a break!
So!! Without the help of the BBC playback facility, just how many of you Sassenachs managed to work out that the ball hit the line before Shane Horgan chipped it back in! If it was airborne when he kicked it, it was not out! If it had hit the line before he kicked it, it was out! It was a split second decision which did not turn the match against England.
Admit it, chaps! You were caught out this year and you were caught out last year! You finished 4th both times! Don't try and blame the match officials; blame your backroom staff! Sack a few people and get back on the path of glory before the World Cup.
Scotland may be improving, Wales may recover and Ireland might need to rebuild. However, we Jocks (I'm happy with that term but find BEagle's alternative term immature) and the rest of the Celts realistically know that only England are capable of getting to the Final of the World Cup in 2007; but only if they take action now. Stop whining, do something about it (does Andy Robinson read PPRuNe?) and make the required changes so that we (the Brits) can at least take pride in beating the French on their own ground next year.
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Admit it, chaps! You were caught out this year and you were caught out last year! You finished 4th both times! Don't try and blame the match officials; blame your backroom staff! Sack a few people and get back on the path of glory before the World Cup.
Scotland may be improving, Wales may recover and Ireland might need to rebuild. However, we Jocks (I'm happy with that term but find BEagle's alternative term immature) and the rest of the Celts realistically know that only England are capable of getting to the Final of the World Cup in 2007; but only if they take action now. Stop whining, do something about it (does Andy Robinson read PPRuNe?) and make the required changes so that we (the Brits) can at least take pride in beating the French on their own ground next year.
FW
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England lacked any imagination and lost because of it.
Still can't understand why experienced players deliberately handle the ball in the ruck - in front of the ref!!!! The number of penalties against showed that the players do not seem to have the capacity to think and play at the same time. Numerous occasions exposed individuals lack of coordination and the fact that the backs are simply too beefed-up to be able to even side-step!
Squad contains very few players with actual skill.
All the Coach can offer is to take the ball in and hope you win the next phase!
18-months may be too short a period to remedy the mess that his coaching policies have produced.
Strange how players are picked from their impressive 'club' performance - then are not allowed to play for England using such recognisable skill, flare and initiative.
Ireland were great and thoroughly deserved their win.
They did their homework and rode their luck - hats off to them - coming to Twickers and exchanging the touchjudge flag for one made of lead
Then swapping it back to wrongly footfault cohen's throw in
Still can't understand why experienced players deliberately handle the ball in the ruck - in front of the ref!!!! The number of penalties against showed that the players do not seem to have the capacity to think and play at the same time. Numerous occasions exposed individuals lack of coordination and the fact that the backs are simply too beefed-up to be able to even side-step!
Squad contains very few players with actual skill.
All the Coach can offer is to take the ball in and hope you win the next phase!
18-months may be too short a period to remedy the mess that his coaching policies have produced.
Strange how players are picked from their impressive 'club' performance - then are not allowed to play for England using such recognisable skill, flare and initiative.
Ireland were great and thoroughly deserved their win.
They did their homework and rode their luck - hats off to them - coming to Twickers and exchanging the touchjudge flag for one made of lead
Then swapping it back to wrongly footfault cohen's throw in
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Those are fantastic photos Thanks for posting them. What sort of a camera do you use to produce results as good as that.
Great picture of the Grommit grin on Andy Robinson. I hope that makes the papers when he gets booted out.
Ronan O'Gara wearing blades. These should be banned by the IRB
Those are fantastic photos Thanks for posting them. What sort of a camera do you use to produce results as good as that.
Great picture of the Grommit grin on Andy Robinson. I hope that makes the papers when he gets booted out.
Ronan O'Gara wearing blades. These should be banned by the IRB
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Sassenachs (OED n. & adj. Sc. & Ir. usu. derog. an English person) NB Derog meaning derogatory ie insulting.
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I cannot understand those (Danturaincluded) who claim that England have the talent but somehow just cannot get their act together.
I believe that the Premiership is producing mediocre English players with plenty of beef, and fit, but lacking in technical skills. The clubs buy these skills from abroad.
I think the English team played well up to their limited capabilities against Scotland and Ireland and gave up to the Frogs. Perhaps they were fatigued?
The fact that England A got thrashed by Ireland should be sounding the clangers at RFU HQ. A thorough examination of the structure of Rugby in England is long overdue - including the match programme.
England's World Cup victory, based on a superb pack, a half-back pairing that is now defunct, and a great goal-kicker, gave rise to the usual English disease of complacency and concealed the fundamental underlying weaknesses.
I believe that the Premiership is producing mediocre English players with plenty of beef, and fit, but lacking in technical skills. The clubs buy these skills from abroad.
I think the English team played well up to their limited capabilities against Scotland and Ireland and gave up to the Frogs. Perhaps they were fatigued?
The fact that England A got thrashed by Ireland should be sounding the clangers at RFU HQ. A thorough examination of the structure of Rugby in England is long overdue - including the match programme.
England's World Cup victory, based on a superb pack, a half-back pairing that is now defunct, and a great goal-kicker, gave rise to the usual English disease of complacency and concealed the fundamental underlying weaknesses.
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Flaps
I've lived in Jockland for over 8 years and was on the recieving end of plenty of abuse, even married one for a while and got even more abuse. If you believe the term paki to be derogatory, why are you using it.
Apologies for taking so long to reply I have a day job.
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PS A sensitive soul like you should not be allowed anywhere near a rugby thread.
I've lived in Jockland for over 8 years and was on the recieving end of plenty of abuse, even married one for a while and got even more abuse. If you believe the term paki to be derogatory, why are you using it.
Apologies for taking so long to reply I have a day job.
regards
retard
PS A sensitive soul like you should not be allowed anywhere near a rugby thread.