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Originally Posted by Vidal
Sooms,
do the sqns do a full 4 month det BTW?)
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do the sqns do a full 4 month det BTW?)
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And compared to other bases in the middle east, Al Udeid is a bit of a holiday camp, Al's Garage and Ali Al were far worse. However, the worse so far in my experience, (which is only 9 years) was Camp South in Oman, during Ex Saif Sareah II (spelling?), 2001.
Anyone agree/disagree?
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It comes round very quickly for the rest of us too!
Puma also does 2 month dets with only 2 sqns.
Merlin, 1 sqn and 2 months dets.
Chinook is the same.
Most people on my sqn do 2 dets to the sandy place and one major environmental det a year. 5 months away EVERY year.
This is aircrew and groundcrew, but also TCW, TSW etc, but overall its still the 'few'
Rotary have always been this busy, the rest of the Air Force is slowly catching up.
I just wish the support people who never deploy would support those who do instead of worrying about their own little world and think they are being ill treated when politely asked to do their jobs. Of course this does not apply to everyone but many people seem to think its an unresonable request for support when we are away for 5 months a year.
Not a rant, just pointing out one of the many factors which is aiding the general slide of standard of life, moral of the coal face workers.
Puma also does 2 month dets with only 2 sqns.
Merlin, 1 sqn and 2 months dets.
Chinook is the same.
Most people on my sqn do 2 dets to the sandy place and one major environmental det a year. 5 months away EVERY year.
This is aircrew and groundcrew, but also TCW, TSW etc, but overall its still the 'few'
Rotary have always been this busy, the rest of the Air Force is slowly catching up.
I just wish the support people who never deploy would support those who do instead of worrying about their own little world and think they are being ill treated when politely asked to do their jobs. Of course this does not apply to everyone but many people seem to think its an unresonable request for support when we are away for 5 months a year.
Not a rant, just pointing out one of the many factors which is aiding the general slide of standard of life, moral of the coal face workers.
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Originally Posted by Door Slider
It comes round very quickly for the rest of us too!
Puma also does 2 month dets with only 2 sqns.
Merlin, 1 sqn and 2 months dets.
Chinook is the same.
Most people on my sqn do 2 dets to the sandy place and one major environmental det a year. 5 months away EVERY year.
This is aircrew and groundcrew, but also TCW, TSW etc, but overall its still the 'few'
Rotary have always been this busy, the rest of the Air Force is slowly catching up.
I just wish the support people who never deploy would support those who do instead of worrying about their own little world and think they are being ill treated when politely asked to do their jobs. Of course this does not apply to everyone but many people seem to think its an unresonable request for support when we are away for 5 months a year.
Not a rant, just pointing out one of the many factors which is aiding the general slide of standard of life, moral of the coal face workers.
Puma also does 2 month dets with only 2 sqns.
Merlin, 1 sqn and 2 months dets.
Chinook is the same.
Most people on my sqn do 2 dets to the sandy place and one major environmental det a year. 5 months away EVERY year.
This is aircrew and groundcrew, but also TCW, TSW etc, but overall its still the 'few'
Rotary have always been this busy, the rest of the Air Force is slowly catching up.
I just wish the support people who never deploy would support those who do instead of worrying about their own little world and think they are being ill treated when politely asked to do their jobs. Of course this does not apply to everyone but many people seem to think its an unresonable request for support when we are away for 5 months a year.
Not a rant, just pointing out one of the many factors which is aiding the general slide of standard of life, moral of the coal face workers.
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Originally Posted by OCCWMF
Vidal,
Not actually alliteration at all.
Not actually alliteration at all.
Late in response as I've been orf for a bit.
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Originally Posted by Door Slider
It comes round very quickly for the rest of us too!
Puma also does 2 month dets with only 2 sqns.
Merlin, 1 sqn and 2 months dets.
Chinook is the same.
Most people on my sqn do 2 dets to the sandy place and one major environmental det a year. 5 months away EVERY year.
This is aircrew and groundcrew, but also TCW, TSW etc, but overall its still the 'few'
Rotary have always been this busy, the rest of the Air Force is slowly catching up.
I just wish the support people who never deploy would support those who do instead of worrying about their own little world and think they are being ill treated when politely asked to do their jobs. Of course this does not apply to everyone but many people seem to think its an unresonable request for support when we are away for 5 months a year.
Not a rant, just pointing out one of the many factors which is aiding the general slide of standard of life, moral of the coal face workers.
Puma also does 2 month dets with only 2 sqns.
Merlin, 1 sqn and 2 months dets.
Chinook is the same.
Most people on my sqn do 2 dets to the sandy place and one major environmental det a year. 5 months away EVERY year.
This is aircrew and groundcrew, but also TCW, TSW etc, but overall its still the 'few'
Rotary have always been this busy, the rest of the Air Force is slowly catching up.
I just wish the support people who never deploy would support those who do instead of worrying about their own little world and think they are being ill treated when politely asked to do their jobs. Of course this does not apply to everyone but many people seem to think its an unresonable request for support when we are away for 5 months a year.
Not a rant, just pointing out one of the many factors which is aiding the general slide of standard of life, moral of the coal face workers.
I know that the rotary boys are never out of the desert and would probably give their right arm to live in the state of luxury that us fast jet geeks enjoy in Qatar. I have a great respect for those who have to spend 5-6 months of every year 'camping'.
As for the distinct lack of support you are offered, I can confirm that this 'kindness' extends to us aswell. Going to stores to try and get desert kit before you deploy is sometimes harder than rocking up to the Tower of London and asking if you can borrow the Crown Jewels for a couple of months.
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Peppermint - do get a grip. We all know that it is easier asking for a loan of the Crown Jewels.
If anyone can be ar*ed to look at the MOD site that shows who's where, it might be an eye-opener to discover just who deploys and with what regularity. I know of one outfit that has aircraft permanently deployed in various theatres and has done so continuously since the run-up to GW ONE. Some individual crew members away for an accumulated 8-9 months every year...
Incidentally, brilliant job by the Tonkka mates!
If anyone can be ar*ed to look at the MOD site that shows who's where, it might be an eye-opener to discover just who deploys and with what regularity. I know of one outfit that has aircraft permanently deployed in various theatres and has done so continuously since the run-up to GW ONE. Some individual crew members away for an accumulated 8-9 months every year...
Incidentally, brilliant job by the Tonkka mates!
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Well I for one am jealous of the boys at the 'deid and their 'luxuries' but hey ho Queens shilling and all that.
What has made my blood boil this morning is sitting in the Dental Centre waiting room reading a letter in the RAF News from some total asre on 56(R) Sqn bleating about how shabbily he was treated by the AT fleet on his return from a det in Cyprus.
The fact that he perceived he had a legitimate grievance and worse still went into print about why there was no Tristar and Hercules at his immediate beck and call; goes a long way to show that even relatively non bluntys have absolutely no idea just how far the AT and SH fleets are getting the bat shoved where the sun never shines.
Fortunately the chap who did the reply did all but tell the unfortunate pillock to wind his neck in and be grateful for any AT at all for his jolly boys outing.
Well done the GR4 chaps but the rest of you FJ people please wake up and realise that you are not the hardest working troops in NATO!
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What has made my blood boil this morning is sitting in the Dental Centre waiting room reading a letter in the RAF News from some total asre on 56(R) Sqn bleating about how shabbily he was treated by the AT fleet on his return from a det in Cyprus.
The fact that he perceived he had a legitimate grievance and worse still went into print about why there was no Tristar and Hercules at his immediate beck and call; goes a long way to show that even relatively non bluntys have absolutely no idea just how far the AT and SH fleets are getting the bat shoved where the sun never shines.
Fortunately the chap who did the reply did all but tell the unfortunate pillock to wind his neck in and be grateful for any AT at all for his jolly boys outing.
Well done the GR4 chaps but the rest of you FJ people please wake up and realise that you are not the hardest working troops in NATO!
Rant over
