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Old 18th Mar 2006, 00:16
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I was one of those who gladly gave up a days flying pay circa 96, in order to test the legality of the non pensionable flying pay. It did indeed go to barrister level and the case was dropped on his/her advice.

A judicial review AIUI would cost six figures but there are many stages of advice before you get to that point.

The only winners would be the law professionals!
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Old 19th Mar 2006, 11:53
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Well i guess that just leaves the Mail on Sunday!!

Why is it the bare chested REMFs get to win every time......?? Guess it's time to leave, but even then you're playing into their hands as it saves them paying you redundancy when they need to cull certain ranks/ac types/etc.
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Old 19th Mar 2006, 16:42
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Originally Posted by santiago15
Slight aside on flying pay, following a crew room discussion today; does anybody know if people on a short service commision are entitled to receive the upper rate of flying pay?
No, on a SSC you can only get up to middle rate regardless of your length of service/flying. Caught me out too.
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Old 19th Mar 2006, 16:52
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Which having read all the posts above is along the same lines as the PA/PC issue I'm thinking. I've been on a short service commission meaning that I don't get high rate flying pay, even though my peers with equal or less experience on a PC do. I wasn't aware of this when I signed on to a SSC initially unfortunately. Same job but different terms of service = less pay. Bugger!
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Old 21st Mar 2006, 20:44
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Climebear, Dunmoanin, JTO et al

Nothing to do with SP(Flying) or even PVR specifically, but since you were discussing age discrimination, have alook at Draft Statutary Instrument 2006 No 0000, The Employment Discrimination (Age) Regulations at:

www.opsi.gov.uk

under New Legislation/Draft Statutory Instruments/21 March 2006

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Old 21st Mar 2006, 22:44
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So, if I took PA and then decided to jump ship, say after 5 years, what implications would that have on my pension/gratuity?
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Old 21st Mar 2006, 23:13
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As I understand it, you would still get the EDP that you expect to get - based on your PAS pay - and with no cut in pay prior to your "termination".

However, you'll be very lucky to get offered PAS these days! I understand that (due to their high cost) there is a strict limit to the number of PAS allowed - and most of the slots are filled by old Specialist Aircrew geezers who automatically got offered PAS when it was brought in a few years ago. As they are unlikely to leave early (because of the new pension scheme), very few people are getting offered PAS at their IRD. It's more likely that you will be offered an extension of service on your current (Career Spine) terms.
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Old 21st Mar 2006, 23:30
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Ginseng,

Nothing to do with SP(Flying) or even PVR specifically, but since you were discussing age discrimination, have alook at Draft Statutary Instrument 2006 No 0000, The Employment Discrimination (Age) Regulations
I suppose you mean the bit that says, "These regulations do not apply to service in any of the naval, military or air forces of the Crown"?
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 08:44
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Exactly, for those interested its in Part 6 Sub 44(4).

As predicted by my earlier posts on this thread, it looks like the legislature is using the ability to exempt the Armed Forces from the legislation (as is the European Directive permits). The SI is still in draft so it could be ammended - if people feel strongly they could always lobby their MP
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 14:44
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Yes, that was the bit!

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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 19:00
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I would stay on the AFPS 75 scheme. How would I be treated? Have tried AP3393 etc, but to no avail. Also as JPA is immently going live no-one can help me at PSF.
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 19:06
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Also beware of PVR'ing within 5 years of transferring to a PC (not sure about PA) from a SSC. If you do, you will lose immediate non-effective benefits such as the resettlement/terminal grant. Believe you still get a pension though.
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