RAF OASC - probably a frequent question...
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RAF OASC - probably a frequent question...
Good evening everyone!
I sat my OASC at RAF Cranwell in November; and didn't do too well.
I'm going to re-sit.
Any hints or tips as to how I can do better next time (it WILL be the last time!) I'm applying for WSOp (rotary would be my first choice, not least for the obvious "chopper" gags that could ensue....)
Any advice as to how I can kick-arse next time?
Many thanks in advance chaps (and chapettes!)
Timby
I sat my OASC at RAF Cranwell in November; and didn't do too well.
I'm going to re-sit.
Any hints or tips as to how I can do better next time (it WILL be the last time!) I'm applying for WSOp (rotary would be my first choice, not least for the obvious "chopper" gags that could ensue....)
Any advice as to how I can kick-arse next time?
Many thanks in advance chaps (and chapettes!)
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Originally Posted by VigilantPilot
I thought it was all going 2 pilot ops. But I know nothing, which is why I asked the question!
Try here WSO/WSOp then you will be fully in the picture...........
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timby,
Tricky question.
Tricky answer. Be yourself only better.
Think.
If you are given 5 minutes to make a plan and brief your team use the 5 minutes well.
If it is the maths then set youself mental maths questions. A clue. 6 minutes is one tenth of an hour. If you travel at 30 mph (or kph) how far do you travel in 6 minutes?
Six minute increments always work exactly. With minute increments you often have to approximate. Ie, if you are travelling at 21 mph how far to you travel in one minute? Doh.
Answer 2.1/6. Much easier to visualise than 21/60.
Tricky question.
Tricky answer. Be yourself only better.
Think.
If you are given 5 minutes to make a plan and brief your team use the 5 minutes well.
If it is the maths then set youself mental maths questions. A clue. 6 minutes is one tenth of an hour. If you travel at 30 mph (or kph) how far do you travel in 6 minutes?
Six minute increments always work exactly. With minute increments you often have to approximate. Ie, if you are travelling at 21 mph how far to you travel in one minute? Doh.
Answer 2.1/6. Much easier to visualise than 21/60.
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As already mentioned by ratty1 look at your debrief.
When wrting a report we look at your activities and interests that you declared at interview and then we make recommendations. These are there for a reason and include mostly tailored suggestions on how to improve in your weakest areas.
It really annoys OASC staff when you return in 1 or 2 years and people have ignored the debrief points. You really have to question their motivation/intelligence when areas for improvement have been offered then ignored.
If you post your debrief suggestions I will be able to tell you in more detail why they were suggested to you.
WTN
When wrting a report we look at your activities and interests that you declared at interview and then we make recommendations. These are there for a reason and include mostly tailored suggestions on how to improve in your weakest areas.
It really annoys OASC staff when you return in 1 or 2 years and people have ignored the debrief points. You really have to question their motivation/intelligence when areas for improvement have been offered then ignored.
If you post your debrief suggestions I will be able to tell you in more detail why they were suggested to you.
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It's easy to go back and try to be someone better than yourself. Don't try to be that better person.
It may work if you're a good actor, or just lucky on the day, but I reckon most people who try this are quite transparent. Mainly because of the personality contrast between the tasks and interludes - it's unavoidable and puts you under a lot of pressure. Then the strain starts to show in your face and you definately don't want that to happen!
It is far better to improve yourself as far as possible in everything (relevent) that you do during your gap. That way you WILL be a better person when the time comes and will not have to act. What I'm saying in a round about way is: Work really hard to improve yourself, and DON'T BE TEMPTED TO BLAG IT!
I think they look at your integrity and courage to ask questions or own up to mistakes just as much as they look at your leadership or planning ability, so make sure you're relaxed (a little bit), and be yourself.
WTN, I'd be interested to know what you have to say about the above!
It may work if you're a good actor, or just lucky on the day, but I reckon most people who try this are quite transparent. Mainly because of the personality contrast between the tasks and interludes - it's unavoidable and puts you under a lot of pressure. Then the strain starts to show in your face and you definately don't want that to happen!
It is far better to improve yourself as far as possible in everything (relevent) that you do during your gap. That way you WILL be a better person when the time comes and will not have to act. What I'm saying in a round about way is: Work really hard to improve yourself, and DON'T BE TEMPTED TO BLAG IT!
I think they look at your integrity and courage to ask questions or own up to mistakes just as much as they look at your leadership or planning ability, so make sure you're relaxed (a little bit), and be yourself.
WTN, I'd be interested to know what you have to say about the above!
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Be yourself, probably only thing to change is try and get fitter. In the group exercises, the fitter you are, the less knackered you will be, the easier it is to think straight etc etc.
This is something close to my heart, as at my debrief, i was told that i was by far and away an outstanding candidate, and would be on my way to cranwell to be a pilot, but they thought i was a bit too 'pudgy'.
This is something close to my heart, as at my debrief, i was told that i was by far and away an outstanding candidate, and would be on my way to cranwell to be a pilot, but they thought i was a bit too 'pudgy'.
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Took me ages to find a link to this as it's now more than 12 months (to the day).
Try some of the info here and see if it helps you with what OASC are looking for.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...highlight=OASC
(Oh, and i'm a wannabe an' all. Best of luck...)
Try some of the info here and see if it helps you with what OASC are looking for.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...highlight=OASC
(Oh, and i'm a wannabe an' all. Best of luck...)
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Evening chaps.
I'm in the process of returning to OASC myself, though I don't have any dates for P2 brief, filter interview etc as of yet.
My main concern is that whilst I was at the OASC I was a member of the TA for a short spell (March - August 04). On my debrief it mentioned that I should maintain my involvement with this however some family issues arised and I couldn't give adequate time. I should also point out that I was (and still am) doing club sports amongst some volunteer work, though the difference being that I could choose when I could devote time, unlike the TA where it's essential you attend the training weekends.
Thankfully my family issue has been resolved and things are on the mend so I think I should go back to the TA as it was a recommendation, and not to mention the obvious team skills etc that I can gain from it. My main concern is how I think OASC would perceive this. I have a fear that they may look at me as some jack b*stard who doesn't want a RAF commission. I've also spoken to a couple of TA bods with mixed views about using it as a springboard into the regs - especially in today's climate where the TA cannot afford time wasters.
Believe me, there really is nothing else I want to go for more than this! All other points to improve on eg. take an active interest in outdoor pursuits, tackling problems in a practical rather than theoretical sense, I've tried to adhere to. I try whenever possible to get myself and some buddies to N.Wales (Tryfan, snowdon etc) and am also a keen climber - I've just progressed to multi-pitch climbing!
Any help would be great. Cheers all!
I'm in the process of returning to OASC myself, though I don't have any dates for P2 brief, filter interview etc as of yet.
My main concern is that whilst I was at the OASC I was a member of the TA for a short spell (March - August 04). On my debrief it mentioned that I should maintain my involvement with this however some family issues arised and I couldn't give adequate time. I should also point out that I was (and still am) doing club sports amongst some volunteer work, though the difference being that I could choose when I could devote time, unlike the TA where it's essential you attend the training weekends.
Thankfully my family issue has been resolved and things are on the mend so I think I should go back to the TA as it was a recommendation, and not to mention the obvious team skills etc that I can gain from it. My main concern is how I think OASC would perceive this. I have a fear that they may look at me as some jack b*stard who doesn't want a RAF commission. I've also spoken to a couple of TA bods with mixed views about using it as a springboard into the regs - especially in today's climate where the TA cannot afford time wasters.
Believe me, there really is nothing else I want to go for more than this! All other points to improve on eg. take an active interest in outdoor pursuits, tackling problems in a practical rather than theoretical sense, I've tried to adhere to. I try whenever possible to get myself and some buddies to N.Wales (Tryfan, snowdon etc) and am also a keen climber - I've just progressed to multi-pitch climbing!
Any help would be great. Cheers all!
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A good mate of mine joined the RAF and did his time as a Chinook pilot despite having been in the TA (not OTC) at university. He overcame the odd pang to wear green, and only bored the assembled company with his stories of weekend wars if there was a Saturday in the week.
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bit of help
got some good gen for what to know etc for OASC, did post it but no1s looked really
learn about JPA
1gp and 2gp merging from 1,2,3 gps
JCA
New CDS and CAS
Project SLAM
why is Akrotiri important, and why we keep the falklands
off to OASC myself in May....
learn about JPA
1gp and 2gp merging from 1,2,3 gps
JCA
New CDS and CAS
Project SLAM
why is Akrotiri important, and why we keep the falklands
off to OASC myself in May....
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I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
<<got some good gen for what to know etc for OASC, did post it but no1s looked really
learn about JPA
1gp and 2gp merging from 1,2,3 gps
JCA
New CDS and CAS
Project SLAM
why is Akriotiri important, and why we keep the falklands
off to OASC myself in May....>>
Then of course there is the consistent use of keyboard shift and space keys and the ability to spell the names of RAF stations
learn about JPA
1gp and 2gp merging from 1,2,3 gps
JCA
New CDS and CAS
Project SLAM
why is Akriotiri important, and why we keep the falklands
off to OASC myself in May....>>
Then of course there is the consistent use of keyboard shift and space keys and the ability to spell the names of RAF stations
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
<<got some good gen for what to know etc for OASC, did post it but no1s looked really
learn about JPA
1gp and 2gp merging from 1,2,3 gps
JCA
New CDS and CAS
Project SLAM
why is Akrotiri important, and why we keep the falklands
off to OASC myself in May....>>
Then of course there is the consistent use of keyboard shift and space keys and the ability to spell the names of RAF stations
learn about JPA
1gp and 2gp merging from 1,2,3 gps
JCA
New CDS and CAS
Project SLAM
why is Akrotiri important, and why we keep the falklands
off to OASC myself in May....>>
Then of course there is the consistent use of keyboard shift and space keys and the ability to spell the names of RAF stations