Sea King stuck in the mountains
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Originally Posted by The Swinging Monkey
Cyclic,
Try reading what people write.
I didn't say the HAR 3 was overborne with power, I said that it was NOT under powered.
As for flying in the mountains - hmmm I'm not sure if I should rise to the bait...
oh to hell with it, here goes... how does 3000+ hrs in the mountains, over the water, in the FI, everywhere grab you?
I notice you didn't answer my question about 'the knackered old SAR boys can't' ... probably didn't read that bit eh??
TSM
Try reading what people write.
I didn't say the HAR 3 was overborne with power, I said that it was NOT under powered.
As for flying in the mountains - hmmm I'm not sure if I should rise to the bait...
oh to hell with it, here goes... how does 3000+ hrs in the mountains, over the water, in the FI, everywhere grab you?
I notice you didn't answer my question about 'the knackered old SAR boys can't' ... probably didn't read that bit eh??
TSM
Southside - that RS 60 is 60 minutes, not the 60 hours it will probably take to get that yellow icepop airborne
Hmmmm yellow ice.....isn't that a bad thing.......?
Wiretensioner it might be 3000 hours plus.....another 3000 hours!
Hmmmm yellow ice.....isn't that a bad thing.......?
Wiretensioner it might be 3000 hours plus.....another 3000 hours!
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lots more pictures on www.rafmountainrescue.com after a straightforward register.... Looks a bit stuck to me?
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Sea King stuck in mountains
Swinging monkey
I also started getting less hours when I was promoted and posted.
Promoted to Mister and joining the brave chaps in Bristows, now looking forward to CHC.
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I also started getting less hours when I was promoted and posted.
Promoted to Mister and joining the brave chaps in Bristows, now looking forward to CHC.
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As SH, I have to take my hat (helmet) off to the crew for making the decision not to press on. It must have been a difficult choice warm cockpit v cold mountain. Well done all involved.
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Southside - that RS 60 is 60 minutes, not the 60 hours it will probably take to get that yellow icepop airborne
suggest you read the JSP fella.
Southside - so you can declare an aircraft that is u/s as ready? I don't think so. I know, let's make our serviceability stats look really good by declaring all the aircraft at RS whatever is needed and only tell the truth about them when someone asks for one (sorry it went u/s on start).
Crab,
Welcome to the commerical world now....contract availability numbers are always a fiddle! Not that the military are immune from such tricks. How many combat aircraft, vehicles, and weapon systems are actually ready to fight despite being tagged "Good to Go"?
Welcome to the commerical world now....contract availability numbers are always a fiddle! Not that the military are immune from such tricks. How many combat aircraft, vehicles, and weapon systems are actually ready to fight despite being tagged "Good to Go"?
Sasless, surely not....people on the SAR thread got very defensive when I suggested that the 'operator who shall not be mentioned' might have played just that type of game with availability stats.
Yes you are right about the military - in the 90's the Lynx/TOW availability was massively overegged by an AAC desperate not to show what poor serviceability they had.
Yes you are right about the military - in the 90's the Lynx/TOW availability was massively overegged by an AAC desperate not to show what poor serviceability they had.
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Good to see she's out of the worst of the hills at least....
Surely this must be some sort of speed record for the Seaking!!!
Flight Lieutenant Darren French, from RAF Lossiemouth, flew the aircraft on the two-mile journey, which took less than five minutes.
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Think you lot are missing the point here. The RAF got stuck and who did they call......the ever reliable Junglies!!!
http://www.westpress.co.uk/displayNo...folderPk=69655
A rather amusing article, unfortunately they've left off the picture from the paper which had a Royal Navy Sticker strategically placed over 'RAF Rescue'
http://www.westpress.co.uk/displayNo...folderPk=69655
A rather amusing article, unfortunately they've left off the picture from the paper which had a Royal Navy Sticker strategically placed over 'RAF Rescue'
What can I say that hasn't been said already?
Getting the people and kit in proved difficult. I am sure the guys loved the experience of hover taxying backwards into the corrie in weather that was still pretty grotty.
We eventually got the kit in and the engineers did a sterling job. The aircraft was 'toasty' inside when I got there, and was in pretty good nick. I have seen more water inside first standby aircraft than was in this one. The engines fired up first time on the internal battery. There was a bit of vibration so the head was shut down and some bits of ice on the mainblades that had been missed were cleared off.
From then on everything was straightforward, just a quick hop down to Glenmore Lodge due to the fading light and to allow the aircraft to completely thaw naturally.
The following day all the equipment was offloaded from the mountain and sorted, again helped by the 845 guys despite having completed their part of the task.
Unfortunately during the start to fly the aircraft back to Lossie it suffered a Hyds failure. Although it does seem a huge coincidence, the failure may not have been anything to do with its time out in the cold. The fix should be fairly quick but I don't know if it is back home yet as I've finally had a day off today
Loads of people to thank for helping us including 845 NAS, MAOT, MASU, Kinloss MRT (and I think Leuchars too), Cairngorm MRT, Glenmore Lodge, Royal Irish Regiment (for supplying a hooker) and probably others that I have forgotten.
Hopefully this won't happen again for a while
Getting the people and kit in proved difficult. I am sure the guys loved the experience of hover taxying backwards into the corrie in weather that was still pretty grotty.
We eventually got the kit in and the engineers did a sterling job. The aircraft was 'toasty' inside when I got there, and was in pretty good nick. I have seen more water inside first standby aircraft than was in this one. The engines fired up first time on the internal battery. There was a bit of vibration so the head was shut down and some bits of ice on the mainblades that had been missed were cleared off.
From then on everything was straightforward, just a quick hop down to Glenmore Lodge due to the fading light and to allow the aircraft to completely thaw naturally.
The following day all the equipment was offloaded from the mountain and sorted, again helped by the 845 guys despite having completed their part of the task.
Unfortunately during the start to fly the aircraft back to Lossie it suffered a Hyds failure. Although it does seem a huge coincidence, the failure may not have been anything to do with its time out in the cold. The fix should be fairly quick but I don't know if it is back home yet as I've finally had a day off today
Loads of people to thank for helping us including 845 NAS, MAOT, MASU, Kinloss MRT (and I think Leuchars too), Cairngorm MRT, Glenmore Lodge, Royal Irish Regiment (for supplying a hooker) and probably others that I have forgotten.
Hopefully this won't happen again for a while