Sabre Rattling?
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Sabre Rattling?
Falkland fear as Argentina steps up show of strength
Argentina 'arrests' British squid trawler
- trivial news or not?
Argentina 'arrests' British squid trawler
- trivial news or not?
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"Several planes are believed to have overflown island airspace in a bid to test RAF defences."
They did this a lot when I was down there last year - but only as far as up to the edge of the exclusion zone, before getting the message that they should 'poke off', by the presence of one of our F3.
"The British military presence in the South Atlantic has dropped from 1,900 troops in 1998 to 1,200"
Hardley surprising, considering the British forces as a whole have reduced in size. It's not as if the "20,000-strong British presence in Germany" can't be re-deployed as and when they're needed. (Cue sarcastic comments about u/s VC-10, can't get blokes back from Iraq etc, blah, blah). The point is, that whether the Argentine air force has increased in size or not, they'd still be daft to try it on again.
Of course, our illustrious leader could always call the bluff of George dubya, and echo his use of the NATO article about one country getting attacked and everyone else having to join in the subsequent fight...
They did this a lot when I was down there last year - but only as far as up to the edge of the exclusion zone, before getting the message that they should 'poke off', by the presence of one of our F3.
"The British military presence in the South Atlantic has dropped from 1,900 troops in 1998 to 1,200"
Hardley surprising, considering the British forces as a whole have reduced in size. It's not as if the "20,000-strong British presence in Germany" can't be re-deployed as and when they're needed. (Cue sarcastic comments about u/s VC-10, can't get blokes back from Iraq etc, blah, blah). The point is, that whether the Argentine air force has increased in size or not, they'd still be daft to try it on again.
Of course, our illustrious leader could always call the bluff of George dubya, and echo his use of the NATO article about one country getting attacked and everyone else having to join in the subsequent fight...
More likely this is being stirred up by the locals on the Falklands. They are paranoid that the Forces are going to abandon them and so, every so often, a crisis appears on the horizon (literally) to give them chance to bang their drum.
Remeber chuckling down at MPA when having a drink with an Army chum. He was off home after his 6 month stint defending the isalnds against Argentina, to get some leave before his next job...Staff College in Buenos Aeries (sp?)!!
Remeber chuckling down at MPA when having a drink with an Army chum. He was off home after his 6 month stint defending the isalnds against Argentina, to get some leave before his next job...Staff College in Buenos Aeries (sp?)!!
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TonkaT sez:
"our illustrious leader could always call the bluff of George dubya, and echo his use of the NATO article about one country getting attacked and everyone else having to join in"
Unfortunately articles 5 and 6 of the NATO treaty make it clear that the mutual defence agreement only applies when an attack occurs north of the Tropic of Cancer.
Now I know that when the Falklands were invaded in 1982 the whole world uttered a collective gasp of "Huh? Where?" -- but I suspect a few more people now know where they are -- even the Yanks
"our illustrious leader could always call the bluff of George dubya, and echo his use of the NATO article about one country getting attacked and everyone else having to join in"
Unfortunately articles 5 and 6 of the NATO treaty make it clear that the mutual defence agreement only applies when an attack occurs north of the Tropic of Cancer.
Now I know that when the Falklands were invaded in 1982 the whole world uttered a collective gasp of "Huh? Where?" -- but I suspect a few more people now know where they are -- even the Yanks
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Let the Argies try it, one submarine full of Tomahawks could ground their airforce and cripple their military.
Also given that 80 Royal Marines caused them so much problems last time, I would think twice given there is a substantial garrison of over 1200 military there now.
Here's the UK Falklands Garrison.
Also given that 80 Royal Marines caused them so much problems last time, I would think twice given there is a substantial garrison of over 1200 military there now.
Here's the UK Falklands Garrison.
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Nice picture - perhaps you could label it with key points like ground defence features and SAM sites? I'm sure there will be some very interested readers somewhere...
Oh a few lat and longs would be nice too - someone I know was asking about IPs - guess he meant Interesting Places?
Nice picture - perhaps you could label it with key points like ground defence features and SAM sites? I'm sure there will be some very interested readers somewhere...
Oh a few lat and longs would be nice too - someone I know was asking about IPs - guess he meant Interesting Places?
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...and there they were trying to convince me the Argie hordes were going to attack at any minute. Yeah, the FI are full of contradictions - jets at x minutes readiness and a workforce Stella'd most nights.
I would say the most useful thing I gained from my 4 months was seeing a convincing argument against Jointery. We undoubtedly need to integrate to some degree, but keep the specialists in their own field. It did seem that someone was experimenting by putting the Navy in air ops, the Army were something to do with landing craft/ships and the RAF were dicked every Sat morning to do infantry training. Add to that a 4 to 6 month turnaround and it's Krazy Klowns Kalamity Koncepts every time something out of the ordinary happened...
I would say the most useful thing I gained from my 4 months was seeing a convincing argument against Jointery. We undoubtedly need to integrate to some degree, but keep the specialists in their own field. It did seem that someone was experimenting by putting the Navy in air ops, the Army were something to do with landing craft/ships and the RAF were dicked every Sat morning to do infantry training. Add to that a 4 to 6 month turnaround and it's Krazy Klowns Kalamity Koncepts every time something out of the ordinary happened...
Dam Argies!!
Still this will create a good buying opportunity for FOGL shares (Falkland Oil and Gas) as it will be a good time to purchase at a discount if they fall.
Reports say they suspect the oil reserves in the FI area to be larger then the UAE! This would create the fourth largest oil producing nation in the world. Buy now, while they are cheap is my advise!!
Still this will create a good buying opportunity for FOGL shares (Falkland Oil and Gas) as it will be a good time to purchase at a discount if they fall.
Reports say they suspect the oil reserves in the FI area to be larger then the UAE! This would create the fourth largest oil producing nation in the world. Buy now, while they are cheap is my advise!!
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Just been looking on Google Earth, Quite interesting.. then went and looked at Argentina and saw a huge complex of some kind here:
45Deg 46'38 S
67Deg 40'18 W
Anyone know what this place does?
45Deg 46'38 S
67Deg 40'18 W
Anyone know what this place does?