Interesting Mig display
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I'm no spotter (honest!), but that Mig looks suspiciously like some kind of Sukhoi Flanker variant.
Great display though...makes your eyes water.
I'll now stand back and let the real spotters tell us exactly what it is.
Great display though...makes your eyes water.
I'll now stand back and let the real spotters tell us exactly what it is.
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Of course...could be a Sukhoi or some description...but the manouvers just blow you away...probably of no real use in a combat situation but I'd still not like to meet one in a dark alley.
The most amazing manouver was the backwards tumble...literally end over end backwards entered from 3/4s of a loop...just mind numbing aerodynamics and engine ability.
I can't pick it in the vid but is there thrust vectoring involved or is this just good old Russian 'Masey Ferguson' technology only?
Chuck.
The most amazing manouver was the backwards tumble...literally end over end backwards entered from 3/4s of a loop...just mind numbing aerodynamics and engine ability.
I can't pick it in the vid but is there thrust vectoring involved or is this just good old Russian 'Masey Ferguson' technology only?
Chuck.
It's a FLANKER variant, as already suggested, probably one of the more recent versions, poss Su-35/37 - certainly not the bomber variant or the navalised one. The real freaky move where it stands on its tail before pitching forward is, I believe, the 'cobra' and was the initial party piece of thrust vectored aircraft when they first appeared on the scene.
Just think what could have been - ditch Typhoon and buy 232 Flankers, figher and bomber variants, preferably with licensed production over here with western avionics. Fraction of the price, rugged and relatively simple to maintain. My god, what a platform that would have been.
Just think what could have been - ditch Typhoon and buy 232 Flankers, figher and bomber variants, preferably with licensed production over here with western avionics. Fraction of the price, rugged and relatively simple to maintain. My god, what a platform that would have been.
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"Just think what could have been - ditch Typhoon and buy 232 Flankers, figher and bomber variants, preferably with licensed production over here with western avionics. Fraction of the price, rugged and relatively simple to maintain. My god, what a platform that would have been."
Guys, this is the reason the UK has Typhoon. It was designed to defeat these variants. Figures I have seen suggest it will do so at least 75% of the time. Those manoeuvres would leave the F-35 a sitting duck, btw!
Guys, this is the reason the UK has Typhoon. It was designed to defeat these variants. Figures I have seen suggest it will do so at least 75% of the time. Those manoeuvres would leave the F-35 a sitting duck, btw!
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What an impressive display. A question for you drivers of pointy things past and present though. Many of those manouvres are way outside the accepted norm and I wonder how the pilot maintains situational awareness through that lot, as many of the physical sensations felt must be confusing or maybe even contradictory in some cases.
Damned if I can say for sure whether it is going forwards, backwards or sideways half of the time and I am just sitting bolted to the ground in front of a monitor....
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Damned if I can say for sure whether it is going forwards, backwards or sideways half of the time and I am just sitting bolted to the ground in front of a monitor....
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Try rightclicking and then "save as" to copy it to your hard drive. Works on Firefox well for me, though there was a bit of a delay before it started coming down the toob.
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Thanks Conan. Right clicking only allowed me to "save link as". Did that and Windows Media Player refused to open it saying it was either corrupted or not a supported file type!
Time for tea, methinks!
GG
Time for tea, methinks!
GG
Originally Posted by Chimbu chuckles
http://www.flurl.com/uploaded/MIG29O...005_26054.html
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No bloody wonder I thought the Sukhoi was a Mig....they look the bloody same to me
That only ran as far as the takeoff then stopped...will try again...I like sharks, my daughter and I feel cheated when we go diving and see none.
That only ran as far as the takeoff then stopped...will try again...I like sharks, my daughter and I feel cheated when we go diving and see none.
Mig(Sukhoi?) display
Today (10th) I can't see the video clip either but I could yesterday.
V impressive it is too.
Having spoken to one of the Russian Knights display team a year or two ago (via an interpreter I hasten to add), he explained that they derive an instrument display from the "prongy" things on the trailing edge of the port fin when they are in the tail slidey type manouevres. If you look closely at the arrangement in a still piccy there appears to be a pitot tube and at least two butterfly vane arrangements which might supply some pitch and yaw info as well as "backwards speed". Now as to interpretation of this in the middle of a display - Gawd only knows!
I raise my rather battered SD to the guys who do it.
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V impressive it is too.
Having spoken to one of the Russian Knights display team a year or two ago (via an interpreter I hasten to add), he explained that they derive an instrument display from the "prongy" things on the trailing edge of the port fin when they are in the tail slidey type manouevres. If you look closely at the arrangement in a still piccy there appears to be a pitot tube and at least two butterfly vane arrangements which might supply some pitch and yaw info as well as "backwards speed". Now as to interpretation of this in the middle of a display - Gawd only knows!
I raise my rather battered SD to the guys who do it.
The Ancient Mariner