Survival kits
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Survival kits
As some may know I have an unhealth interest in all things to do with ejection seats and kindred systems.
Part of my collection is the stuff and paraphinalia that goes with the pilot should he eject.
I am keen to find out what kind of medicinals are included with the current PSP's as in my collection from the near past (Mid 90's) there are first aid kits that contain the following tablets in various quantities:
Codeine Phosphate
Cyclizine
Diphenoxylate & Atropine
Paludrine
Proguanil
Sodium Chloride and Dextrose
Tetracycline
Pentazocine
What I would like to ask is:
1. What kind of training were aircrew given to use such medication?
2. What are they all for?
3. Having read some of the treads about spreading a little instant sunshine in the east, was this heady mix of chemicals ever intended for purposes other than medicinal? If you get my drift!
4. What does the average (combat) aircrew carry with them these days?
Part of my collection is the stuff and paraphinalia that goes with the pilot should he eject.
I am keen to find out what kind of medicinals are included with the current PSP's as in my collection from the near past (Mid 90's) there are first aid kits that contain the following tablets in various quantities:
Codeine Phosphate
Cyclizine
Diphenoxylate & Atropine
Paludrine
Proguanil
Sodium Chloride and Dextrose
Tetracycline
Pentazocine
What I would like to ask is:
1. What kind of training were aircrew given to use such medication?
2. What are they all for?
3. Having read some of the treads about spreading a little instant sunshine in the east, was this heady mix of chemicals ever intended for purposes other than medicinal? If you get my drift!
4. What does the average (combat) aircrew carry with them these days?
It's always a good party joke (with nerds) to tell everyone that those meat defrosting stands were originally designed for pilots to sit on after they ejected in an artic environment...
You'd be surprised how many people fall for it......
You'd be surprised how many people fall for it......
Jim
In the early 80s, I received zero trainig on the contents- just a list.
When later, an instructor on the airman aircrew school, there was a first aid input, but not linked to the contents of FAKs at all. It wasn't on the syllabus.
CSRO course - nothing there either.
CG
In the early 80s, I received zero trainig on the contents- just a list.
When later, an instructor on the airman aircrew school, there was a first aid input, but not linked to the contents of FAKs at all. It wasn't on the syllabus.
CSRO course - nothing there either.
CG
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Seems a tad strange that there could be a scenario where one is sitting next to smoking hole in the ground, days from the nearest CSAR response and in no immediate enemy danger and looking at a list of pills that one hasn't the foggiest what they are for.
We were never given any instruction on the purpose of the strange Latin named substances.
Whether they stopped you having the sh*ts, purified water, stopped wound infection or killed pain, we hadn't a clue.
Despite being asked several times for simple instructions to be included, the Rubber Queens of Mountbatten were more interested in trying to scare you about conduct after capture (The Big Six - Name, Rank, Number, Aircraft, Weapon, Target) than in giving any practical briefs on the medicinal contents of the PSP.
Whether they stopped you having the sh*ts, purified water, stopped wound infection or killed pain, we hadn't a clue.
Despite being asked several times for simple instructions to be included, the Rubber Queens of Mountbatten were more interested in trying to scare you about conduct after capture (The Big Six - Name, Rank, Number, Aircraft, Weapon, Target) than in giving any practical briefs on the medicinal contents of the PSP.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Concur, we were told diddly squat.
One trip I sustained a bad cut on my hand opening a tin of sausages. Fortunately we had tomato sauce so the sausages were OK.
I opened my FAK and strapped up the cut there and then.
I got a bollocking from the medics for opening my 'drug kit' and had to account for all the contents. Oddly the most powerful drugs were missing. 'Must have fallen out through the flare shut sir, very strong suck.'
I should have used the aircraft kit they said.
One trip I sustained a bad cut on my hand opening a tin of sausages. Fortunately we had tomato sauce so the sausages were OK.
I opened my FAK and strapped up the cut there and then.
I got a bollocking from the medics for opening my 'drug kit' and had to account for all the contents. Oddly the most powerful drugs were missing. 'Must have fallen out through the flare shut sir, very strong suck.'
I should have used the aircraft kit they said.
I went to Mountbatten (and later St Mawgan) God knows how many times. Leaened all about how to use the Ojibwa bird snare, make shelters in the jungles of Lincolnshire 
, fired off dozens of miniflares and jungle rockets aimed at the refinery opposite, learned what ICATQ was, learned not to eat polar bear liver - but then it was always the same old trip in the pinnace, out into the ogsplosh in a SS or MS dinghy, wait for the helicopter, come back, quick rum and tea, then bog off back to base.
Why did no-one ever bother teaching us what all those weird Latin pills and potions were supposed to do? But I guess Duty of Care didn't matter back then?
, fired off dozens of miniflares and jungle rockets aimed at the refinery opposite, learned what ICATQ was, learned not to eat polar bear liver - but then it was always the same old trip in the pinnace, out into the ogsplosh in a SS or MS dinghy, wait for the helicopter, come back, quick rum and tea, then bog off back to base.Why did no-one ever bother teaching us what all those weird Latin pills and potions were supposed to do? But I guess Duty of Care didn't matter back then?
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Its been a while and I am guessing a bit but I suggest:
Codeine Phosphate - medium stength pain killer
Cyclizine - anti-seasickness
Diphenoxylate & Atropine - Anti-sh!ts
Paludrine - anti malaria
Proguanil - another name for paludrine and vice versa
Sodium Chloride and Dextrose - rehydration a la 'dioralyte'
Tetracycline - anti-bacterial but more probably anti-malarial for choloriquine/paludrine resistant malaria
Pentazocine - strong pain-killer
Codeine Phosphate - medium stength pain killer
Cyclizine - anti-seasickness
Diphenoxylate & Atropine - Anti-sh!ts
Paludrine - anti malaria
Proguanil - another name for paludrine and vice versa
Sodium Chloride and Dextrose - rehydration a la 'dioralyte'
Tetracycline - anti-bacterial but more probably anti-malarial for choloriquine/paludrine resistant malaria
Pentazocine - strong pain-killer
If it makes you chaps feel any better, having been through relatively recently, I didn't here a single word about the contents of the med kit.... I reckon they're full of cotton wool due to budget cuts, but no one wants to admit it....
>Black astras now pulling up<
>Black astras now pulling up<
that and the medics probably can't handle the raw power of the omega....
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No-one ever gave us instruction as to what the pills were all were for. However, someone did once tell me that there would be written dosage instructions inside the sealed FAK. However, as I have never opened a FAK in anger, I cannot verify this - anyone care to comment?