People going sick.
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Not at all Lord Trenchards Brat,
I whole heartedly agree. Do us a favour Movadinkampa747, and wind your neck in. You really have no argument at all here do you?
I whole heartedly agree. Do us a favour Movadinkampa747, and wind your neck in. You really have no argument at all here do you?
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QUOTE=Mr Wippy]I rest my case.
Hows the homework coming on Mova? Detention tomorrow is it?[/QUOTE]
I'll certainly not rise to the mover bait. 100 lines 'I must spell mover right'....awe bless you!
BTW check my name out....might give a clue to you my distant past....if you know RAF history that is.
Hows the homework coming on Mova? Detention tomorrow is it?[/QUOTE]
I'll certainly not rise to the mover bait. 100 lines 'I must spell mover right'....awe bless you!
BTW check my name out....might give a clue to you my distant past....if you know RAF history that is.
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So, anyway, getting back to the topic?
Do you reckon the MOD should start coming down hard on the malingerers?
How can they do it?
discuss?
Do you reckon the MOD should start coming down hard on the malingerers?
How can they do it?
discuss?
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Originally Posted by movadinkampa747
Who said I was a mover? Try and dissect my name and see what it actually says.
"Am I bothered?"
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OK ......OK......we alll have them working for us.
We are subjected to morons at all levels - I agree lets come up with a generic 'flush the ba$$ards' out plan.
Any one any suggestons????
We are subjected to morons at all levels - I agree lets come up with a generic 'flush the ba$$ards' out plan.
Any one any suggestons????
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Originally Posted by movadinkampa747
What about if it is an injury caused whilst on duty?
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Originally Posted by Mr Wippy
I reckon 20 days paid sick leave per year, after that Statutory Sick Pay.
This would save the MOD loads.
This would save the MOD loads.
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Originally Posted by movadinkampa747
What about if it is an injury caused whilst on duty?
That is injury based sicknes not malingering!
Good point all the same!
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Originally Posted by movadinkampa747
There is no specific need for medical evidence to start sick pay. If the employer has no reason to doubt the sickness of the employee then SSP can be paid without medical evidence.
SSP is payable at the weekly rate of £66.15 (or at the set daily rates if a full weeks pay is not applicable) for up to 28 weeks in a year. So you are now suggesting the SMO has a say on wether we get paid or not?
SSP is payable at the weekly rate of £66.15 (or at the set daily rates if a full weeks pay is not applicable) for up to 28 weeks in a year. So you are now suggesting the SMO has a say on wether we get paid or not?
Every MD has that decision to make in the real world. Why should the MOD in the 'Accountant PC Run era' be any different? Just playing devils advocate!
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Originally Posted by movadinkampa747
In your original post you said the individual was downgraded. You never said what for and surely the Med centre wont downgrade someone for no good reason. Surely if they have been downgraded for so long then they should be reffered to a medical board for disposal.
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Originally Posted by Lord Trenchards Brat
Why not??
Every MD has that decision to make in the real world. Why should the MOD in the 'Accountant PC Run era' be any different? Just playing devils advocate!
Every MD has that decision to make in the real world. Why should the MOD in the 'Accountant PC Run era' be any different? Just playing devils advocate!
If you are fully fit, then you resume your usual pay scale.
If you are over x amount of days sick then you can be reduced to a 'sicky pay band'
just an idea.
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Originally Posted by Mr Wippy
I reckon that an 'Operational' pay scale should be introduced.
If you are fully fit, then you resume your usual pay scale.
If you are over x amount of days sick then you can be reduced to a 'sicky pay band'
just an idea.
If you are fully fit, then you resume your usual pay scale.
If you are over x amount of days sick then you can be reduced to a 'sicky pay band'
just an idea.
Gets my vote....Mr Whippy for PM!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by movadinkampa747
In your original post you said the individual was downgraded. You never said what for and surely the Med centre wont downgrade someone for no good reason. Surely if they have been downgraded for so long then they should be reffered to a medical board for disposal.
and why has the individual been allowed to leave a training unit before being upgraded?
The Training units have a lot to answer for as well.
Its not just about getting the camps stats correct and fobbing the problem onwards, the problem needs to be addressed before release to an operational unit.
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Originally Posted by movadinkampa747
As I said
"Hang on you said that the individual was downgraded when they arrived at your unit"
"Hang on you said that the individual was downgraded when they arrived at your unit"
ok, see your point.
What i meant was
Why are personnel allowed to leave a training unit downgraded?
are we agreed?
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homework? mmm
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And while we're at it, how can people pass out of recruit and trade training having never passed a fitness test? One of them in my place of work, so it's not hearsay.
Sorry, I digress...
JG
Sorry, I digress...
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Originally Posted by Jobza Guddun
And while we're at it, how can people pass out of recruit and tradetraining having never passed a fitness test? One of them in my place of work, so it's not hearsay.
Sorry, I digress...
JG
Sorry, I digress...
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Dont get me started on the fitness thing
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Originally Posted by movadinkampa747
It depends on what they have been downgraded for. Was this individual downgraded when they got to you or during training? Has this individual been classed as non-effective?
when she got to me
Not been classified non-effective.
What are the rules concerning non-effectiveness?