Puma in the what role?
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None to the best of my knowledge which, considering the blatent disregard to the ROE that opening fire with a suppresive fire weapon entailed and the potential legal implications that would follow, it was a blessing in disguise
But to grasp the real reason for this extended period of weapon discipline you have to try and understand the main differances between Army and RAF aircrew.
RAF aircrew are recruited, be they Pilot, Nav or Loadie based on extremely strict medical and educational standards
Army aircrew initially join as soldiers, initial selection is based simply on their in built ability and desire to punch f@ck out of anything they don't understand.
Discovering at a later date suitability for aircrew does not however, remove the initial mindset
RAF outbriefs left no one in any doubt that the Captain was in charge however all captains I flew with understood fully the limitations of the weapon and the fact that issuing an order to open fire would not put HIM in the dock. With this in mind every captain I flew with told me that if I decided to ignore his command to open fire then he would back my decision all the way.
I often wonder how many poor Lynx door gunners understood fully the implications of simply following the orders of the soldier in the front seat who was initially selected for his desire to punch/kill things
Like the poor sap who, on his front seaters orders put a whole box of 1 in 1 into Southern Ireland....................Good skills guys
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But to grasp the real reason for this extended period of weapon discipline you have to try and understand the main differances between Army and RAF aircrew.
RAF aircrew are recruited, be they Pilot, Nav or Loadie based on extremely strict medical and educational standards
Army aircrew initially join as soldiers, initial selection is based simply on their in built ability and desire to punch f@ck out of anything they don't understand.
Discovering at a later date suitability for aircrew does not however, remove the initial mindset RAF outbriefs left no one in any doubt that the Captain was in charge however all captains I flew with understood fully the limitations of the weapon and the fact that issuing an order to open fire would not put HIM in the dock. With this in mind every captain I flew with told me that if I decided to ignore his command to open fire then he would back my decision all the way.
I often wonder how many poor Lynx door gunners understood fully the implications of simply following the orders of the soldier in the front seat who was initially selected for his desire to punch/kill things
Like the poor sap who, on his front seaters orders put a whole box of 1 in 1 into Southern Ireland....................Good skills guys
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Just to keep the banter going, can anyone give me the number of rounds launched from the 'mighty plastic pursuit ship', not including range details nor those expended into TSW property? (Rounds 'borrowed' from you as replen don't count either).
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I've never been quite sure about you ABIW but I'm starting to warm to you now.
I could tell you a story about a few TWA types (non-screaming sperm) who spent so long away from R850 one day that they had to land 'somewhere in SA' (sáns Mr Shell's finest), and the subsequent sheepish colleague who had to ask us nicely to leave our warm office with pump, filter and hoses in tow in order to perform a defuel/refuel in situ, but of course that could never have happened could it?
I could tell you a story about a few TWA types (non-screaming sperm) who spent so long away from R850 one day that they had to land 'somewhere in SA' (sáns Mr Shell's finest), and the subsequent sheepish colleague who had to ask us nicely to leave our warm office with pump, filter and hoses in tow in order to perform a defuel/refuel in situ, but of course that could never have happened could it?
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Apologies Lafyar, was just referring to my times in the Emerald isle, and as for you HS I find that story to be highly unbelievable...........................bearing in mind the aviation prowess of the "punchy" ones
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