Reds moving to Leeming?
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Tim - the suggestion of an operating museum came from my notion of moving the BBMF to Scampton and the Reds moving to Conningsby. There are a number of historic buildings that could be put to good use in telling some of the history of Bomber Command and Guy Gibson. Scampton in itself is possibly the most historic bomber airfield in the world and the BBMF Lancaster could quite easily be the best known bomber in the world.
The BBMF is always going to be a unit that is scrutinised by the bean counters and if there was a way it could operate from an airfield like Scampton it would be far easier to introduce commercial elements to help fund the Flight without using involving the public purse.
A move to Conningsby by the Reds would also allow the public access that is currently required for the BBMF to be reduced a what seems increasingly to be the U.K's main air defence base.
The Reds would then still be within sensible commuting distance of most U.K air displays.
The notion of moving to Leeming doesn't fit within the sensible distances required to attend to display appearances.
Far more sensible to do the above and then move 100 Squadron
into Scampton to utilise some of Scampton's space - provide a source of aircrew for the BBMF and also bring the target facilities
aircraft closer to the Typhoons.
None of this is in the media and entirely hypothetical Tim .
The BBMF is always going to be a unit that is scrutinised by the bean counters and if there was a way it could operate from an airfield like Scampton it would be far easier to introduce commercial elements to help fund the Flight without using involving the public purse.
A move to Conningsby by the Reds would also allow the public access that is currently required for the BBMF to be reduced a what seems increasingly to be the U.K's main air defence base.
The Reds would then still be within sensible commuting distance of most U.K air displays.
The notion of moving to Leeming doesn't fit within the sensible distances required to attend to display appearances.
Far more sensible to do the above and then move 100 Squadron
into Scampton to utilise some of Scampton's space - provide a source of aircrew for the BBMF and also bring the target facilities
aircraft closer to the Typhoons.
None of this is in the media and entirely hypothetical Tim .
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The Reds need a clearly defined practice area that is clear of homes, roads, etc - there are only a handful of bases that fulfill that criteria, and Coningsby isn't one of them. Neither is Leeming - the only base other than Scampers is Marham, I believe. Sadly Coltishall didn't meet the criteria, either. 
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What Leeming right beside the North York Moors, the Yorkshire Dales, the Durham Dales, the Lake District etc etc
Too many houses around there
You could stick them at St Athan, plenty of facilities there and they have the whole of Wales to train over.
Too many houses around there
You could stick them at St Athan, plenty of facilities there and they have the whole of Wales to train over.
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You could stick them at St Athan
.... Ok maybe not ......
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And Leemings not, it's only five miles from Teesside Airport.
I didn't realise the RAF were so picky about airports as there are constant near misses documented around Newcastle Airport.
Time for the RAF to stop it's low flying over the north, now that Boulmer is going and followed by Leeming, yes.
They can go and practice over there new home in Scotland.
I didn't realise the RAF were so picky about airports as there are constant near misses documented around Newcastle Airport.
Time for the RAF to stop it's low flying over the north, now that Boulmer is going and followed by Leeming, yes.
They can go and practice over there new home in Scotland.
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I could be wrong, but you appear to be a very small and bitter man. With a rather well developed inferiority complex.
Or perhaps your comments are just a very poor attempt at fishing for a few bites.
BV
Or perhaps your comments are just a very poor attempt at fishing for a few bites.
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@ Bob,
you are what you drink Bob and I am from the north and a bitter man
The RAF only ever drink halves of shandy, so there not welcome in the north.
In fact the only time the RAF come up north now is to attend Manchesters Gay Pride Festival.
you are what you drink Bob and I am from the north and a bitter man
The RAF only ever drink halves of shandy, so there not welcome in the north.
In fact the only time the RAF come up north now is to attend Manchesters Gay Pride Festival.
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Further fuelling the Scampton flying museum thingy....weren't there rumours that the Vulcan would be operated out of Scampton rather than Brunters?
If they ever succeed in getting the money together to get it in the air of course
If they ever succeed in getting the money together to get it in the air of course
And have you given any financial donation to help put the Vulcan up where it belongs, GeeRam?
558 will fly from Bruntingthorpe. Not Sunny Scampton.
558 will fly from Bruntingthorpe. Not Sunny Scampton.
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BEagle - what makes you so sure that 558 will fly from Bruntingthorpe rather than Scampton? GeeRam is right... there are a lot of rumours at Scampton that 558 will be spending her flying days here... I thought it was something to do with Bruntingthorpe not being able to provide the fire cover required by the CAA? - Or have you heard something to the contrary?
And have you given any financial donation to help put the Vulcan up where it belongs, GeeRam?
What little I can spare goes to the LPG at Brunters to aid the reconstruction of the old Wattisham QRA shed.
They are desperate to raise just a mere fraction of '558's funding to get the two F.6's under cover and create a 'working' Lightning museum.
Am I assuming that the Reds would still require to practice over their home base (assuming beancounters would not tolerate any transit)
.....just to re-iterate, as it's probably been mentioned before....
9500'msl avoid adjacent to an estblished and 'growing' civvy airport - no problems there then
To forward the debate of Southern Shandy Drinkers (SSD)
I concur with the aforementioned comments of our Northern compatriot.
.....just to re-iterate, as it's probably been mentioned before....
9500'msl avoid adjacent to an estblished and 'growing' civvy airport - no problems there then
To forward the debate of Southern Shandy Drinkers (SSD)
I concur with the aforementioned comments of our Northern compatriot.
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Not heard any concrete news about 558 being based anywhere other than Bruntingthorpe, but I suppose it could be true. The Vulcan's designated driver lives over just past Metheringham so I guess he'd rather drive back up to Scampton (where he used to be based too)!
If any of you fellas have any unusual Vulcan photos floating around, do let me know - I've just started work on my second Vulcan book and this one is going to be a seriously large volume!
If any of you fellas have any unusual Vulcan photos floating around, do let me know - I've just started work on my second Vulcan book and this one is going to be a seriously large volume!
