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Old 1st Nov 2005, 15:41
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I have heard that proposal elsewhere recently - it would be a first class solution. Establishing a framework whereby the opium farmers sell their crops [for a better price] to legitimate bodies would produce massive benefits all round; more especially, it would provide the pharmaceutical industry with the raw materials to provide more drugs for pain relief, for which I believe there is a world-wide shortage.
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Old 1st Nov 2005, 15:46
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I believe Mad Mark has hit the mark.

The USCG have a specialist sniper unit that trains to perform exactly what happened here. To take out the engine of a fast mover from a helicopter. Despite what you see in the movies such action is incredibly difficult and carries risks not only to the occupants of the boat but also the aircraft.

Whilst it is possible the RN have copied such a technique, the training and maintenance of such a skill is expensive and I would doubt that the crew of a RN ship be it a bootie or matelot that is only on station for a matter of months have the resources or backing to develop it.

These days it is common if not normal for the West Indies Guard ship or whatever name we now call it to carry onboard a detachment from the USCG so that in the event of such finds they can be dealt with by american authorities from the off. It would therefore be likely that part of that detachment would include an element from their sniper unit.

That being said, a vital part of a successful snipe is the correct positioning of the aircraft to give the man with the gun the best possible chance. For that the RN aircrew should be congratulated. Overall it was a job well done and congrats to all involved, from whatever service or country they originate.
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Whilst it is possible the RN have copied such a technique, the training and maintenance of such a skill is expensive and I would doubt that the crew of a RN ship be it a bootie or matelot that is only on station for a matter of months have the resources or backing to develop it
Yes we do have the resources and the training. This operation was conducted entirely by RN/RM personnel. The Lynx fleet have been training hard for this kind of operation for some time and they should be congratulated on a job well done.

As for the comment from Pr00ne

The RN might as well p*ss in the ocean
...hmmm, I think you'll find that they do. How else would they "go"? Tow a portaloo behind them?
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Old 1st Nov 2005, 16:07
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southside,

LoL!!!

Didn't think of that, never could understand this life on the ocean wave lark..................................
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Old 1st Nov 2005, 18:19
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About time the lads on the back end of the Cumberland actually finding something to report.

All those months wasted of Ships on 'patrol' in WIGS conducting dawn and dusk sorties.It does pay off once and while!!

Money, Ships and Aircraft could be better used elsewhere...
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Old 1st Nov 2005, 18:33
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All those months wasted of Ships on 'patrol' in WIGS
You clearly don't understand what the RN does. That is our job. Its called Defence Diplomacy and is a military task as part of our standing commitment. The WIGS (old name) spends a substantial proportion of its time on-station involved in Drugs interdiction, Anti-Piracy, counter-insurgenct Ops as well as protecting the interests of dependant territories and complementing our allies in the area. Thats what we do, thats what the public pay for, thats our job.

You could argue that spending months and months in the NAG going around in circles is wasted but again, thats our job. We like it, its fun, it pays well and were bloody good at it.
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Old 1st Nov 2005, 18:38
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And soon being abandoned due to cuts in frigate/destroyer numbers....

Also easy to forget the RAF are often involved in these sort of tasks too.
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Old 1st Nov 2005, 18:40
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Sat down for 14 hrs a day at an alert state isn't my idea at fun, very boring and not very fulfilling, that's way people leave
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Old 1st Nov 2005, 18:45
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14 Hours a day????

last time I looked there were 24 Hours in a day. Those guys are at an alert state 24 hrs a day.
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unfortunately you can maintain 12 hrs at alert 15 with one crew, that was my example and vast experience

Know your facts dear boy
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Old 1st Nov 2005, 18:55
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Your correct. And the remaining 12 hours are at AL 45. Still at an Alert state, still airborne in 45 Mins.
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Old 2nd Nov 2005, 16:15
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Thinking long and hard before pressing the Submit Reply button, I must agree with southside. Alert 45 was the routine at sea for the Lynx, eased only for maintenance, and you just got on with it. The Atlantic Patrol Ship offered rare opportunities for dark blue to try flying over jungle, swamp, never-ending beach and play with the US Coastguard. Just single ship operations and not a CAOC in sight! Runs ashore in New Orleans or in the islands were outstanding and certainly unsuitable for such an open forum. Wonderful wonderful times.
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Old 2nd Nov 2005, 17:27
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Totally concur. The last WIGS trip I did averaged 55 superb flying hours per month plus 19 Cocktail parties in 4 months and the chance to chase the odd drug runner - Awesome.
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Old 2nd Nov 2005, 17:43
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""""The last WIGS trip I did averaged 55 superb flying hours per month plus 19 Cocktail parties in 4 months""""

Yes those Cocktail parties were great, working the first day you get in to port preparing the Hangar awning and assisting with the FX awning ready for the officers. Great days.

The days on patrol are very boring, brief at 5am and finish about 9pm, all for 4 hrs of flying, waste of time

Oh and cleaning the hangar after the cock and ass is great fun.Thank you inconsiderate officers and cling on's
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Old 2nd Nov 2005, 17:51
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Hmmmmm.. - Methinks pete should have tried harder at School perhaps ????
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Old 2nd Nov 2005, 18:18
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Great way to lead men there southside, belittle them.

Unbelievable there are a lot of OR's who tried very hard at school and some that may even have tried harder than you and achieved the results to match but decided to do something different.

Sir Richard Branston and Pete Wardman would probably be considered stupid by your logic as they both performed poorly at school but look at them now.

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Old 2nd Nov 2005, 18:23
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I think we can all imagine how hard you must have tried at school southside.

You must have made fagging an art form !
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