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AH took 3 hours to range - but that is what the MoD gets when it procures an aircraft that does not have an electrical or hydraulic folding head
what? like the Lynx you mean,which doesn't have a hydrailic or electical head and which takes 20-25 minutes to range and spread????
However, notwithstanding the 3 hours notice you have to give to the enemy before you wax them, I still believe the AH is a fantastic aircraft. Were lucky we have them.
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WAFU 1,
Glad to hear from an independant source that the lads are doing what is asked of them, that is good to hear!
Regards,
HEDP
PS - Southside, you'll have to let me know what an electical or hydrailic head is, is this some new technology that we could all benefit from?
Glad to hear from an independant source that the lads are doing what is asked of them, that is good to hear!
Regards,
HEDP
PS - Southside, you'll have to let me know what an electical or hydrailic head is, is this some new technology that we could all benefit from?
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AH Reaction times
WAFU1 I must thank you for putting something positive about the apache, it seems to many people are quick to put down the programme. As an insider and operator its nice to see some one from another service praising us.
Southside i like to draw your attention to the Lynx spreading times, in that Lynx was designed to be used at sea, Apache was not. The Times you speak about from your "source" was due to being at night and in foul weather. the average time was approx 30 to 35 mins due to the hard work put in by the Tech's.
I believe you are trying to be positive but would like to find out who your source and where he got his information from. we could get Airbourne in a shorter time but you are not getting the best from the Aircraft. if you would like to visit an AH unit give me a call and you are more than welcome to come up to Dishforth providing we are in station and not away again.
Southside i like to draw your attention to the Lynx spreading times, in that Lynx was designed to be used at sea, Apache was not. The Times you speak about from your "source" was due to being at night and in foul weather. the average time was approx 30 to 35 mins due to the hard work put in by the Tech's.
I believe you are trying to be positive but would like to find out who your source and where he got his information from. we could get Airbourne in a shorter time but you are not getting the best from the Aircraft. if you would like to visit an AH unit give me a call and you are more than welcome to come up to Dishforth providing we are in station and not away again.
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WAFU1
Thanks and yep, you are not far off wrong with what you say. I am the first to agree that we have so much more to learn about the whole Ampbious side to operations and yes there were issues, but for our first attempt I think we didn't embarass ourselves or let the boys on the ground down.
Southside I am not too sure where you are coming from, but I echo all of the above. If you are military then feel free give us a shout at Dishforth and we can inform you and also listen to how and when we may be able to integrate with whatever capability you bring to the party.
We are busy but if it stops some erroneous information from being circulated then I am sure that it will be worth it. If you really want to our techs can show you the heath robinson blade folding cradle that Mr Boeing/Westlands managed to convince the AH IPT was an act of war!
You will then notice the subtle (NOT!) differences with an aircraft that was designed to go to sea (i.e. the Lynx that you quote) and the AH.
Oh, and Cobalt - I agree 847 NAS are not up for the chop and they really do enhance AH Ops and soooo much more could be done between the Sqns. However, I do agree you do need a sight (or at least something more than stabilised binos - I hope that was a joke!)
Thanks and yep, you are not far off wrong with what you say. I am the first to agree that we have so much more to learn about the whole Ampbious side to operations and yes there were issues, but for our first attempt I think we didn't embarass ourselves or let the boys on the ground down.
Southside I am not too sure where you are coming from, but I echo all of the above. If you are military then feel free give us a shout at Dishforth and we can inform you and also listen to how and when we may be able to integrate with whatever capability you bring to the party.
We are busy but if it stops some erroneous information from being circulated then I am sure that it will be worth it. If you really want to our techs can show you the heath robinson blade folding cradle that Mr Boeing/Westlands managed to convince the AH IPT was an act of war!
You will then notice the subtle (NOT!) differences with an aircraft that was designed to go to sea (i.e. the Lynx that you quote) and the AH.
Oh, and Cobalt - I agree 847 NAS are not up for the chop and they really do enhance AH Ops and soooo much more could be done between the Sqns. However, I do agree you do need a sight (or at least something more than stabilised binos - I hope that was a joke!)
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