Morale - Discuss!
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Morale - Discuss!
I think its clear to all that low morale and disaffection is rife in the services at the moment. Maybe if we posted how bad it actually is (without exaggeration), any top brass 'surfing' this site may wake up and smell the coffee. Then again, pigs might fly (no pun intended to the AAC!)
Go on, post away and lets find out.....
Go on, post away and lets find out.....
Good for you, but I know lots of engineers that are voting with thier feet and getting the hell out of dodge. Me? I will stay as long as possible,you never know,we might just get our pay upgraded (then again Pigs do fly...) 
and besides,some one has to take the piss out of you when you try 'the hoffman box with the daylight filters on' trick!'
and besides,some one has to take the piss out of you when you try 'the hoffman box with the daylight filters on' trick!'
Sumo, when you return from swanning about on the Tokyo embassy cocktail party circuit and have to join the real world, it'll be interesting to see how you feel then......
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low morale and disaffection is rife in the services
Morale in the RN is soaring. Certainly in my fleet life is good. The weather is fab, all the aircraft are serviceable, the tasking is fun, we get paid lots, have every weekend off, now working the "core working week" which is bloody ace and has made a vast improvement to our working lives.
So, NO Mr gloom and Doom. Morale is not low in the Senior Service. If Morale is low in your Service then maybe you should ask yourself why it is low and what YOU could do to improve morale. Rather than sitting back and moaning about it and expecting someone else to do something, how about YOU do something.
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the Core Working week is as follows:
You have to work 32 Hours a week. Of those 32 Hour, 24 Hours are compulsory. Those 24 Hours are as follows:
Monday 1300 - 1600
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday 0800-1200 and 1300 -1600
That make 8 hours to make up. When you work those 8 hours are up to you. You can work Fridayss or Monday mornings, or if you night fly on Monday night that counts as well. Most people tend to work an extra couple of hours during the week which gives them Fridays off.
Best routine since sliced bread. Thank you very much Fleet .
You have to work 32 Hours a week. Of those 32 Hour, 24 Hours are compulsory. Those 24 Hours are as follows:
Monday 1300 - 1600
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday 0800-1200 and 1300 -1600
That make 8 hours to make up. When you work those 8 hours are up to you. You can work Fridayss or Monday mornings, or if you night fly on Monday night that counts as well. Most people tend to work an extra couple of hours during the week which gives them Fridays off.
Best routine since sliced bread. Thank you very much Fleet .
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Yes but then the Navy doesn't actually do anything does it? I mean almost all the ships are tied up in port with awaiting the scrap heap or are short of essential spares. And you don't see anything in the news about Naval ops do you??
Sweeping statement!
It does annoy me when people say that morale is so low with such a sweeping generality.
Where I work, things are pretty good. For once, I actually agree with a Navy person (won't make a habit of it I promise). I
think Barn Door should have a look around his own section and see what the problem is before saying we're all unhappy.
I accept that some people have it harder than others but please don't tar us with the same brush!
BV
Where I work, things are pretty good. For once, I actually agree with a Navy person (won't make a habit of it I promise). I
think Barn Door should have a look around his own section and see what the problem is before saying we're all unhappy.
I accept that some people have it harder than others but please don't tar us with the same brush!
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Your 'core week' sounds exactly like the type of office mentality that means you can't get any admin done between your two flights per day. All the blunties are on either a pre-work tea break, mid-morning coffee-and-chat, hour-and-a-half lunch break, or stress-avoiding-pre-knock-off-biscuit break.
It might work in the Navy in general, or in administrative circles but not on a front line sqn.
I don't get a "lunch break". I shove some dry rations or a pot noodle in my face between de-brief from the morning sortie and planning/brief for the afternoon's. 40 hour week? I wish. Most people I know bounce off one crew duty limit to the next, often with the bare legal minimum time not with their feet over the sqn threshold. And we're not even on Ops!
When I finish at 1730 all the support staff from the station have legged it.
Good for you if you can get it. Maybe I'm in the wrong colour!
Ray
It might work in the Navy in general, or in administrative circles but not on a front line sqn.
I don't get a "lunch break". I shove some dry rations or a pot noodle in my face between de-brief from the morning sortie and planning/brief for the afternoon's. 40 hour week? I wish. Most people I know bounce off one crew duty limit to the next, often with the bare legal minimum time not with their feet over the sqn threshold. And we're not even on Ops!
When I finish at 1730 all the support staff from the station have legged it.
Good for you if you can get it. Maybe I'm in the wrong colour!
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But thats the point Ray......thats why you lot are all pi$$ed off and morale is low and thats why in the RN morale is (generally) high....and that is on top of TRAF200, an event designed to cause as much disruption and disgruntleness as possible - Yep, despite TRAF200 life in a blue suit is generally top banana (apart from the fact that trappers are coming in a few weeks)
If your daily routine is that bad then change it.
If your daily routine is that bad then change it.
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If it's so great then why is the RN PVR rate over 50% higher ( http://www.dasa.mod.uk ) than the airforce???? Must be brilliant be dark blue!
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Not only is southside pitching up for his core working week and I suspect little else, he is using his work time to post on and, one presumes, surf pprune. No wonder morale is so high.
I wish I had his job (except having to fly Lynx of course)
I wish I had his job (except having to fly Lynx of course)