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Old 11th Oct 2005, 10:52
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Well deepest Wilts airbase has got 5 airborne at same time, just went low level over Chippenham , closely followed by Vicky and a Globethrasher...!!!!
Approx 30mins ago
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yes, and if you look out on thursday you will see it again!!!

The display is just a small part of the day when a whole lot of important people arrive from europe.... and the budget is unlimitless!!! so there has been new paint jobs and conference rooms.....hundreds of MT cars when you normally cant find one..

now wheres the money to give the aircraft better DAS......
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Funny that,

We got loads of dosh to waste on people that most of us aint ever going to see let alone know who / what they doing here in the first place...

We have guys n gals stuck in all four corners of the globe and unable to move them... yet we can get a 5 ship formation in the air for a bunch of overrated penpushers/vips or whoever they are...
So glad the MOD has got there priorities right yet again....!!!!
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Not to mention the chaos and disruption that will be forced upon those mere mortals unfortunate enough to be at Lyneham on Thursday. Like AOCs days of old but on a much grander scale.

Glad to see that we still have time for bullsh1t and farce in spite of todays operational tempo
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Trips cancelled and this is top priority at Lyneham at the moment - all because we need to be seen in the best light.....

Like logistics loader says, people stuck all over and cant get home, but its ok 'cos we'll pretend to the europeans that we actually are a competent airforce.....

what a joke
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If they got any sense TruckieBloke,, they know RAF stands for

Royal

Air

Farce

Now im a civvy, i wonder if i can complain about my Taxes being used to repaint conference rooms and making RAF Lyinham smell like a Dulux paint factory...

Not 1 person in that group is or will be made aware of our troops stuck out somewhere !!!

I'd much rather see a 5 ship legging it across chanel and en route to those that need it...

BTW....

How many frames have "been found" for disaster relief in India ????
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Doubt any complaining will do owt...
Certainly wont get our troops back will it !!!
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5 Hercs?

Gosh - how very impressive. NOT! 30+ years ago the RAF could put 36 up at the same time; I flew on the jump seat of no. 33 in 1971. There was once a reasonable sized transport force with Hercs, Andovers, Bassets, Devons, Pembrokes, Belfasts, Brittanias, '10s - even a whole squadron of VIP Comets!

And now it's just possible to get 5 Hercs airborne at the same time?

Just who is that supposed to impress?
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I guess all flying has been chopped to a bare minimum to generate 5 servicable frames for this, not to mention the boys and girls on the HLS and FLECS working their ar$es off.

Q. Who gets the gash days off for all this?

A. All the day workers who haven't been working round the clock to ensure there are 5 frames to show off with.

Thank's for nothing. I would rather our efforts went towards something constructive, like bringing our troops home on time or relief operations, not some bull$hit just to make some ar$ehole$ happy. Where do our priorities lie?
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5 frames?

Is that the best that we can manage even when we're trying to show off?

Looks like the old OC Eng left quite an impressive legacy
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BEagle,

It is impressive for those VIP's going to watch RAF Lyinham flying display on thursday.

What is not impressive is the fact we can host a load of foreigners but not look after our own !!!!!!

Also 30yrs ago we werent sending all our troops to every known trouble spot in the world, but when we did, we had Commanders with BALLS... Mad Mitch...!!!

Took the fight to the enemy and kicked arris...

If Stormin Norman and Sir Peter De Le Billiere had been left to do the job correctly in 91 maybe our troops would not be back there now !!! After all how many PM's have we had with BALLS...???

1 !!!!! MAGGIE THATCHER OP CORPORATE 1982
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beags... not impressed?? well there was an apache too, ooh and 2 chinooks....and a VC-10..... what about now??!!!

As i see it, alot of people have put alot of work and effort into this, just to try and show that we are capable of something...

It is all ar*e unfortunately. There are currently people living out in iraq on a pitiful welfare package comprising some old newspapers,dvd's,limited internet and wait for it..... 20 MINS A WEEK PHONECALL!!!

Any money spare to help these guys out? Sorry , its gone on all the politicians and their hangar ons who claim expenses for everything.....
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Here Here....

sums it up nicely !!!
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What a farce, commiting all the transport fleet to show off to a load of VIP's who havn't got the fogiest about the current airframe/manpower shortage. AND, they stuffed a K frame into the runway tail first yesterday, 4G heavy landing, good skills you , so yet another frame is going to be broken for months meaning even less fleet avaliability than normal. When the Q aircraft (ie need it quick for emergencys!!) is being used as a display aircraft, it does worry you a bit. Very pretty formation though

Oh, and has anyone noticed how suddenly the food has improved dramatically in the airmens mess whilst it is combined messing with the officers??? amazing that
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I doubt it has anything to do with impressing the O's. The food in our mess is far worse. A duty meal when delayed is always a pleasure.

Officers messes these days are a front - posh carpets and silver cutlery, but appalling to live in(No hot water,mildewed rooms(if you can get one) and rubbish food). We do have some good staf though.
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Quite right to stop people ranting and raving. I must correct you on the Margaret Thatcher, no balls thing though. Clearly untrue - you'll be saying that
Fatima Whitbread wasn't her brother next!
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Old 11th Oct 2005, 19:21
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Sigh

We used to have a transport fleet. We also used to have an Air Force.

I have more bus hours as a pax than AT hours as a pax over the last 10 years.

We all know that it's rubbish, but we have to cope, otherwise the RAF will cease to function.

Sad isn't it?
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747,

In line with all other posts on this Website Pprune, everyone at some stage refers to anything in aviation with a tongue in cheek description....

If you read back i called a VC10 Vicky, C130 Albert, C17 Globethrasher....HMS Invincible was christened HMS Invisible in the Falklands....

After 23yrs in a blue suit, im sure im capable of spelling Lyneham correctly.....!!! in fact it was my last tour before promotion to MR !!!

EU Defence Ministers = FOREIGNERS in my book !!!
MY OPINION IT WONT CHANGE !!!

As for the Biology lesson....

Maggie had Balls alright, she took on those who thought she was a pushover, how wrong they were...

Does your Boss have a spine??? probably not, because he or she has been to Sleaford Tech, oh sorry, Royal Air Force Cranwell (for the f@&kwit)

My ramblings are not inane, but like most people around the bazaars, they are opinions/views based on what is happening in the real world.....

The real world where troops are some 5 weeks late back, personnel in FI are now late back too....ok this is as a result of a ground incident, but it is still a real world scenario taking place right now...!!!

If a group of Defence VIP's takes a higher precedence over our troops, then im very sorry, this Government needs to re-address its priorities....

After all, if the current Government wants to remain in power, they may well lose a lot of votes from within the services.....
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I agre with your sentiments but.............

The rate people are PVRing out there there will be no service voters left




btw

Did any one do a VSA on thursdays hooha?

Is it being carried out iaw "Lean philosophy"


Waste of money IMVHO
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Our current PM does have a set of balls, unfortunately they belong to a certain Mr G Bush and are to be found on Tonys chin!!!
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