Military Rank of a Civilian Captain

[Jinkster]

I understand that Police chiefs and Fire chiefs have an equivalent military rank and therefore should be saluted.

What about an airline captain?

[Avtrician]

Nope. its only a title granted by the airline, not an emergency service.

[VitaminGee]

Not until they get their atpl unfrozen!!

VG

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

Ooh, Corporal would be about right I reckon. Unless an airline captain has an aircraft touching his shoes then he's Joe Civilian. If he has and its his then he's Commander in Chief.

Would be my view.

WWW

[Jinkster]

thanks for the replies

VG - hahahhahahah!

[Logistics Loader]

At no time in my service career did i ever get taught a civvy copper of fire chief gets saluted...!!!

They do not hold the Queens Commision, which even if you hate F/L Albert Pilot who wears it, you are saluting Lizz Two Stroke....

I for one never saluted anyone from the emergency services....
Only "civvy" I recall saluting was the Bertie Ahem....!!!!

I can imagine the SWO at any station pulling up a 4 ringer civvy aircraft capt and telling him he is incorrectly dressed as most civvy pilots i've seen dont wear hats anymore....that would be the clue to saluting them would it not...???

[Role1a]

It depends if youre late for check in or not !!!!

[JessTheDog]

I understand that Police chiefs and Fire chiefs have an equivalent military rank and therefore should be saluted.

I recall seeing senior ranks of both these emergency services wandering around the large piece of Bucks real estate (that would surely be sold off if houses could be built on it) on pultiple occasions, presumably visiting for conferences or meetings of some type.

At no time did I ever see compliments being paid by airmen or officers. I cannot ever recall being briefed on equivalent ranks at any stage in my career and I have never heard of police/fire service personnel exchanging salutes, although they do have parades during training.

[Climebear]

It is very sad that I know this but here goes. It is true that we should salute offrs of the emergency services QRJ158 Compliments in Special Cases refers:

(1) An officer of HM diplomatic or other non-military service is entitled to the honours and salutes appertaining to his office.

[handysnaks]

As pc's don't salute their own officers I don't see why any body else should.

However, I'm glad to see that in these modern times we've got people worrying about important things like this!

[Logistics Loader]

I dont have access to it anymore but JSP 356, has a list of ranks for all three services and it used to have the EMR's (Equivalent Military Rank) for civilians...

eg....
An AO would be equiv to F/L
Professor would obviously be higher up the food chain...probably in region of Harry Staish or 1 Star area....

Rarely do you see PC Plod saluting Sir Chief Constabule on his rounds...in fact dont think i ever have....

[FJJP]

Re QRJ158 - I think what that is refering to is not the individual, but the post he holds, and probably during specific ceremonies at that. For example, a British Ambassador abroad would be entitled to a salute if he were inspecting a parade - but you would not salute him if you passed him in the street, or he passed you in his car.

Unless, of course, someone can quote chapter and verse...

[Nigerian Expat Outlaw]

My brother in law was a Principal in the MOD (retired now). When he used to go to meetings in Berlin before the wall came down he was given the equivalent rank of Brigadier but only in terms of accommodation, transport etc. He never got saluted........

Cheers,

NEO.

[Army Mover]

I think you're all being wound up - New_WO1 anybody ???

[The Real Slim Shady]

Well, when I was a Captain (civvy) they told me I was really Senior Management, and gave me a whole bunch of business cards ........................with the wrong phone number.

Then, when I was Senior Management, they told me I was just a Captain, and gave me a whole bunch of business cards with..................................... the wrong phone number.

So where do I stand?

Well, I guess slightly lower than a snake's belly.

Then I could be wrong: depends if I'm wearing my management hat or not wearing the hat the company doesn't issue to pilots.

[blagger]

What about civilian ranked military aircrew - e.g. Capts at DEFTS, MELIN and DHFS? Do they have an equivalence?

[santiago15]

Slight aside, but I reckon everyone should salute aircrew-regardless of rank! I can just see it now: a blunty staish chopping one up to a Sgt loadie.

[Logistics Loader]

S15...

I'd gladly throw 1 up to a Sgt Loadie,

Cuz inside of my hand i'd have C U Next Tuesday tattoed on it....!!

But then again as Airmen Aircrew dont hold Queens Commission.... you have got as much chance of a salute as i have of spending the night with Rachel Stevens....!!!!

Zilch !!!

[handysnaks]

Slight aside, but I reckon everyone should salute aircrew-regardless of rank! I can just see it now: a blunty staish chopping one up to a Sgt loadie.

Used to happen, as a Lance Corporal Observer at Wildenrath once my teeny little half wing was seen, the snowdrops used to throw me up a smart one every time

[Logistics Loader]

Handy,

The Army did the same when rank slides for SAC's were introduced...

Anything on the shoulders warranted a salute in Army parlance...until they clicked...