Military Rank of a Civilian Captain
The only salute I ever got as a civilian was from an old-fashioned AA man at Halcon corner in Taunton many years ago! If they didn't salute a member, it meant that there was a speed trap nearby.....
Gentleman Aviator
Policemen used to salute their senior officers ..... it became dangerous for Velocette LE mounted officers to do so, so they were allowed to made a fairly formal nod of the head to an officer (Inspectors and above). Hence the name "Noddy Bike".
There is of course one way that any civilian can get saluted .......
.... I belive it is still policy that when in uniform one should salute a funeral cortege.........
..... probably out-of-date now, but I was also taught to salute ladies (no definition provided!!), as the equivalent of raising ones hat. And on the rare occasions I find myself in uniform these days, I still do it.
So for Teeters, the answer is:
yes, providing that you are either:
a. a lady
b. dead
c. all of the above .........
There is of course one way that any civilian can get saluted .......
.... I belive it is still policy that when in uniform one should salute a funeral cortege.........
..... probably out-of-date now, but I was also taught to salute ladies (no definition provided!!), as the equivalent of raising ones hat. And on the rare occasions I find myself in uniform these days, I still do it.
So for Teeters, the answer is:
yes, providing that you are either:
a. a lady
b. dead
c. all of the above .........
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I'm with Teeters on this one. I recall being taught that you saluted a lady you recognised and like him, I still do it even if it is SAC Snook's wife.
Never have and never will salute 'equivalent' ranks and the same goes for politicians.
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Never have and never will salute 'equivalent' ranks and the same goes for politicians.
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This is one even the Americans (see WO_1 thread) have sorted - I often have to go through a US-manned (or should that be "personned"?) checkpoint with my gopping civvy 4-bars, but none of them have ever threatened to bung one up yet.
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they probably reckoned you were a customer and exercise officer, thereby you dont warrant a salute....
on the other hand....going through an american checkpoint, they allowed me through on a library ticket...!!!!
on the other hand....going through an american checkpoint, they allowed me through on a library ticket...!!!!
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Sad reading (i.e. I'm sure I had better things to do at the time I found this), but you'll find the latest gen on civvy equivalents at the bottom of this page:
http://www.dasa.mod.uk/natstats/ukds.../table227.html
http://www.dasa.mod.uk/natstats/ukds.../table227.html
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Nice link Proman.
Say one is employed as a C2 in the Civil Service, and the job is RAFR(CC), commisioned as a Flt Lt (OF-2).
C2 is apparently OF-3 (Squabbling Bleeder) equivalent.
Interesting........!
Say one is employed as a C2 in the Civil Service, and the job is RAFR(CC), commisioned as a Flt Lt (OF-2).
C2 is apparently OF-3 (Squabbling Bleeder) equivalent.
Interesting........!
Even 'equivalent status' is not possible to justify, IMO, using any criterion - especially responsibility.
When I was a Civil Serf, there were similar official "tables of equivalence" going around, with Senior Executive Officer (now Band C-1) equivalent status to Commander/Wg Cdr/Lt Col as in that link.
It was tosh then, and it's tosh now.
When I was a Civil Serf, there were similar official "tables of equivalence" going around, with Senior Executive Officer (now Band C-1) equivalent status to Commander/Wg Cdr/Lt Col as in that link.
It was tosh then, and it's tosh now.
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Interesting! Apparantly my £9 an hour temp job as an EO has equivalent to Flt Lt and my thick-as-**** "boss" as an SEO is a Wing Co!! Does this mean that if I "temped" in the MOD I'd out-rank a Fg Off as a temp scroat?
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Being a civil servant in MOD and a reservist I'm trying to get used to being a Naval Lieutenant in my spare time and then going on deployment with the Army and being called "Major Jimlad".
The really stupid thing is that last time I was at Chilwell to do pre-deployment training the Army SSGT got VERY upset when I said I'm not "Major Jimlad" I'm "Mr Jimlad" as I was there as a Civvy.
Claiming a rank to which you're not entitled is the height of pretension in my book.
The really stupid thing is that last time I was at Chilwell to do pre-deployment training the Army SSGT got VERY upset when I said I'm not "Major Jimlad" I'm "Mr Jimlad" as I was there as a Civvy.
Claiming a rank to which you're not entitled is the height of pretension in my book.
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Can you shed further light on that one!!!
Not heard that in all my time working closely with the Customs guys...
Can you shed further light on that one!!!
Not heard that in all my time working closely with the Customs guys...
Yes, there is direct rank parity - I ranked S/L, Major, Lieut. Cdr. at the time I escaped. Some bases seem more aware of the rank parity than others, but there is an official rank comparison - shame it didn't also apply to pay!
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HS58,
Well as they say, you learn something new everyday...!!
I certainly wasnt aware of the C & E Commision awarded for you guys...and i've had the pleasure of working with a few over the years...who knows we may have worked together too...??
Well as they say, you learn something new everyday...!!
I certainly wasnt aware of the C & E Commision awarded for you guys...and i've had the pleasure of working with a few over the years...who knows we may have worked together too...??