Typhoon gun question
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Typhoon gun question
From the Leuchars thread..
My civilian version of the story is as follows. Please correct me.
Eurofighter design agreed
UK MOD decides they don't want a gun
UK Eurofighters to be fitted with concrete in space for gun
Concrete wrong density for Centre of Gravity
mmm
Need a metal type thingy with same characteristics as original gun
Realise that gun might be best gun-shaped metal type thingy
But in light of No Gun Policy Decision...
Buy gun, but make it unfireable and decide to buy no ammunition for gun-shaped metal thingy
I retell this story as true.
Please tell me that I haven't been lying
My civilian version of the story is as follows. Please correct me.
Eurofighter design agreed
UK MOD decides they don't want a gun
UK Eurofighters to be fitted with concrete in space for gun
Concrete wrong density for Centre of Gravity
mmm
Need a metal type thingy with same characteristics as original gun
Realise that gun might be best gun-shaped metal type thingy
But in light of No Gun Policy Decision...
Buy gun, but make it unfireable and decide to buy no ammunition for gun-shaped metal thingy
I retell this story as true.
Please tell me that I haven't been lying
Kiting for boys,
You have been fibbing I am afraid!
You have been fibbing I am afraid!
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But no pointy thingies that come out of front of gun-shaped metal thingy at a rate of knots.
Kiting for Boys, you haven't been lying.
But, whatever you do, don't tell any future enemy that our fighters don't have useable gun-shaped metal thingies.
Kiting for Boys, you haven't been lying.
But, whatever you do, don't tell any future enemy that our fighters don't have useable gun-shaped metal thingies.
Typhoon gun question
This story was the basis for an episode of "Our brave boys" on Radio 4 last November. The story(comedy)line was as you report, only worse. Surely then, it must be true? Has anyone a recording of this or any other episodes of this very funny satire?
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Concrete and ballast parts not true, the economy was to cut down on range costs and use bogus training modes but we did not buy the loaders. Different loading system to Tonka although same basic gun and ammo.
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Why a fighter aircraft without an operable gun? Seems a huge step back particularly after it was proven beyond any doubt that such aircraft need a gun and cannot rely upon missles alone.
Can someone provide the rationale behind that decision.....surely saving money on ranges and ammunition could not be it. Even the Airships are not that thick!
Can someone provide the rationale behind that decision.....surely saving money on ranges and ammunition could not be it. Even the Airships are not that thick!
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It maybe GBP 30 per 27mm round but seeing as its the same as Tornado ammo, I can't see the problem??
It maybe GBP 30 per 27mm round but seeing as its the same as Tornado ammo, I can't see the problem??
128 Tornado F3/GR4 @£30 per fast pointy thing fired = £nowhere near as much.
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Given the number of Unmanned Air Vehicles of all sizes projected to be encountered over the future battlefield, I hope the RAF is relearning the skill of 'tipping' UAVs. The economies of doing away with the gun begin rapidly dissapear once you start shooting Asraams at $100K UAVs...
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Didn't the Yanks go down this path many years ago with the introduction of the F4?
Anyway, what self-respecting fighter pilot would want to fly an aircraft without a gun?!
Anyway, what self-respecting fighter pilot would want to fly an aircraft without a gun?!
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Yes and got their arses handed to them often enough in Dogfights that they set up Top Gun.... and put guns on all their a/c...
While I'd much rather BVR, I loathe the idea of not having a back up at the merge.
While I'd much rather BVR, I loathe the idea of not having a back up at the merge.
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Outsource it to India
Interesting thought, the Jag will be the last single-seat fighter in the RAF with a gun.
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We have already in recent years in the RAF regretted not training AD pilots in strafe - first the AD Phantoms in Stanley were required to gain the ability and now the F3 needs to have the capability.
An aircraft with a gun is a very effective weapon and is more convincing against ground targets than either ASRAM or AMRAM.
It's about time the politicians took military advice for a change.
An aircraft with a gun is a very effective weapon and is more convincing against ground targets than either ASRAM or AMRAM.
It's about time the politicians took military advice for a change.