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Old 29th Aug 2005, 19:11
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Moortrek Experiences...

Evening all,

Just wondered if anyone had anything they could share with regards an up-coming moortrek prior to starting at DHFS...

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated but remember not to say anything which may cause another addition to the 'Beadwindow' thread!

If you would prefer to PM me than add it to the board, feel free!

Thanks in Advance

M*
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My big lesson learnt was - don't light fires on peat.

Lying up in a wood for the last night's evasion run, my team got a bit cold and thought we'd get a brew on (pine needle tea of course). After the usual goat of playing with the coke can covert fire, we decided that we were deep enough in the wood to build a 'small' non-covert fire. We got warm, felt very good about ourselves, put the fire out and set off on our run. Several hours later the wood caught fire, and the seat of the fire was our lay-up point..... So don't do that.

Pepparami fits quite nicely in the collar of your cold-wx jacket, but that might be illegal. My favourite things in a go-pack are oxo, chilli powder, toothbrush, toothpaste in a taped up drinking straw, and fill the space in your go-pack with rice.

Finally, don't try to light a fire in a coke can by firing your miniflares into it - that method got tried on my course, and it didn't work out so well.

Best of luck with the weather,
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Listen to the lessons, and keep your spirits up for 5 days of the great outdoors. You will get far too much food for an exercise that is supposed to teach you survival skills.

Moortrek is the epitomy of how tree hugging fluffy we have become,and anybody who fails does not deserve a seat in an aircraft.

Be it misery or a constructive learning exercise is entirely down to your frame of mind and attitude.
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If they give you a nice white fluffy bunny, make sure you tw*t it good and proper first time...nothing worse than a squealing bunny being held upside-down by it's hind legs...despatch it swiftly.
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Don't allow a navigator to read a map or navigate.
You will get lost.
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Dude
Dont get teamed with a Nav as you will probably think about killing them.
Dont get caught chasing nice fluffy spring lambs by Farmer Giles with shotgun
Dont go on a real ale bender the night before, eat an inferno spicy pizza with extra jalapenoes as a BENA is not very soft and fluffy .
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Maybe that's what the fluffy bunny is for?
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If they give you a chicken, swiftly wring its neck rather than trying to drown it by holding its head underwater as one [overseas] student tried to do.
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A large amount of aluminium foil can fold up very small and is bloody useful for wrapping around a whole rabbit/chicken leg/breast and sticking on the fire for 45 minutes. You'll be tucking in to a sunday roast while everyone else is still trying to cut meat into 1cm cubes with a blunt knife and boil them three at a time in a tiny cigar tin.
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As one 'senior' Flt Lt (read chump!) enjoys saying:

Continue to practise the principals and priorities of survival in the environment you find yourself in!

Tips from me, just get on with it its not that long, put oxo, tampons and tin foil in your go tin. Don't bother with rice as you get given too much food and will not get hungry (unless your a fat get!) oh and keep laughing

Moortrek -what a waste of time!
 
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Above Datums: Oh, that quote has brought back great memories!!!

Matty W: Are you off into the blue yonder on Sat morn?
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They give you too much food?

Not when I did it they didn't. We got a trout between 2 on day 2 and a rabbit between 8 on day 3, but everything else apart from coffee, sweeties and one chocolate cardboard block had to be caught.

I was at Finningley and the NCO aircrew used to join us for the week. We used the same location for course after course (I know, I got recoursed at precisely the wrong moment and did moortrek twice!). Some of the knockers used their initiative and drove up at the weekend beforehand. They dug a hole large enough to contain several beer cans and a few cans of beans etc. I remember how mildly irritated I was as I wasn't in their group and watched the party taking place downstream of us.

It is cheating to preposition your beer, but I wish I'd not been beset by all this officer standards cr*p and had thought of it first!

Second time out was good though. I knew the best location and was partnered with a fisherman who caught a trout. I found an unopened rice packet from an army location and picked a few mushrooms. When the DS arrived we were tucking in to a very fine risotto. I then tried to find a snare left by my previous partner weeks before. Just before I arrived a bunny made use of the snare - it was still warm and cooked up quite nicely.

Sadly I got into all of this survival malarky and did CSRO course, another course at Grantown, jungle survival in Brunei and in Belize and ran sea drills and dinghy drills galore. If I was young and fit I'd volunteer to swap with you guys on moortrek....no really, I would!
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Give us a grid and ToT and I'll bring my mate's burger van down. Ten quid a bacon butty is very reasonable after a few days out.
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Matty,

Cheat like crazy - 'he who dares' and all. We were checked on the day we left (Sunday) but were not checked when we packed up all our kit on the preceeding Thursday. A senior course tipped us off about this loophole, and we all filled our kit with mars bars etc. That said, I did LSE at Linton, which might be slightly different; I certainly don't remember having too much food!!

Tampons, oxo cubes and rice all went in the go pack. I cut the corner off 7 tea bags and filled them with rice - I thus had a 'tea-bag' portion of rice eery day, which I cooked in a little 'oxo soup'. Also worth taking a biro pen. Pull the pen out and you've a ready-made drinking straw for your oxo soup. Don't bother taking sewing kits or fishing lines in your little tin. They'll just waste precious space for your rice.

Final tip: a little field-porn on the underside of your tobacco tin can do wonders for morale!!!

Enjoy
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....and if the going gets tough, remember this:

*Its not Iraq
*Its not the Falklands
*Its not Bessbrook (though your day will come)
*Its not Afghanistan
*Its not Kinloss

Its still relatively warm in the UK.

Your getting paid for it.

If there is nothing else to do but sunbathe, then get a tan. The hardest part of Moortrek is boredom.

There is a Mac Attack waiting for you on friday night.

Though how many others couldnt eat much with their shrunken tummies? ....and one tinnie and your arseholed.

Bedtime reading the back of your go-pack tin.. Anne Frank was it?
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Old 30th Aug 2005, 21:17
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If it's raining......it could be snowing
If it's snowing......it could be dark.
If it's dark and it's snowing....you could be carrying an injury.....
ad infinitum.
Bottom line, no matter how bad, it could be worse.
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So at the strip search down to socks and underpants this AA was clean. Then the experienced DS told him to take off his spare pair of socks.

£10 flew out.

"Did you see anything?" DS asked. "No sir." he replied.

On the walk-in the sqn ldr idly picked up a stores label. Taped to the back was £20. That went in the DS kitty too.

Food? We had game pie. They had a tiddler and a swede on day 1, some rat-pack on day 3 with a few live chickens. Brief then was to tie it by the neck to a tree and pull hard. The head would lie on the ground eyes open beaking going etc.
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Not Moortrek, and hardly relevant if you're going out this Saturday to enjoy the countryside with some friends, but a bit of advice I got when messing around in South Wales one cold February: pee is warm. Don't waste it, especially if you have a river crossing to do -- save it for the other side. ISTR the exact words used were, "It warms up your legs something lovely."

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If you get picked up in a helo then blag the crew's packed lunches (they will have extra stuff) but don't nick stuff from their go kits. The DS will bang on about 'dislocation of expectations' but ask the MT driver when he's picking you up (civvy drivers ) and he'll soon let you know if you'll be back in time for the cheapest happy hour ever...

I cut a straw in half and filled it with tandoori curry powder. It didn't take up much room in my tin and the tandoori tin foil roasted chicken/rabbit was fantastic.


Enjoy the sunshine and lie-ins and trying in the weapon competition is worth a banana.

...."chin it off fellas"
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Hmmmm, on the other hand, is someone who needs heads-up, cheats, or any other help for what is essentially an easy week off camping in the woods really cut out for military life?
Doing it even without any prior knowledge is a walk in the park.
Go on, tell me I'm taking it too seriously
I recall one exercise where a secret stash of mars bars, beer, tins of beans etc had been pre-positioned but to recover it, the smart-arses who thought they could beat the system walked further in one night to recover said stash than the rest of us walked for the entire week of the exercise (and they eventualy ended up jogging back to make the DS check-of-studes the next morning)
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