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Old 14th Aug 2005, 18:34
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Fitness Tests

Hi,

Currently getting myself fit for RAF selection/training.

Can anyone please give me the tests that i will have to carry out, so i will be able to practice these and focus on improving the areas of my fitness that these tests test (hope that makes sense.)

I know that there is a bleep test, the minimum level is 9.10 i believe (please correct if wrong).

Any more detailed info on this test and others would be great.

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Hi, BHN,

Have a look at http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=166273, which is a useful collection of links to different aspects of OASC.

There are contradictory reports, which might reflect requirements changing, but it would seem that the most recent advice is that boarding still only requires a bleep test, and the level you achieve is still converted to a grade based on your age and gender. Looks like for males under 25, 10.6 is required to get a "good", and 11.7 is needed for an "excellent".

9.10 is the highest you must reach as part of your annual fitness test once you've finished training, although the standard for some posts and detachments can be higher,

Best of luck,

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The TA have (or did have when I used it a few years ago) a good website to help people get fit for the army. It has a week by week fitness guide and will more than meet the fitness requirements we have in the RAF. I don't have the web link but I am sure you can google it.
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BHN,

Don't worry about the minimum standard. If you get yourself as fit as you possibly can before IOT then it's one less thing for you to worry about while you're there.

Once you've met the entry standard (forget the bleep test, as long as you can run 7 minute miles) at the start of IOT all you have to do is give 100% in your time at Cranditz; your fitness will improve and you will impress them.

There's a game to play but you certainly CAN'T be seen to play it, so just give you're all and you'll be fine.

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Yeh, just try to get off that armchair and away from watching Big Brother before you start, it won't do you any good to pitch up not having done anything.

They are, however, bringing in new fitness tests more like the army BFT, with maximal bleep tests, pack runs etc. Its an anti wraf measure apparently
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Anyone who trains for the minimum deserves not to be selected!!

It's a maximal test and obviously the better you do, the more credit you get.

Furthermore, don't forget situps and pressups are part of the test too.

As for Good and Excellent, these assessments have been discontinued.

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Once selected (if for IOT this is) a little booklet will be dispatched with your joining instructions detailing a recommended routine and all sorts of sit ups etc.

I just hope you get far enough to receive this booklet. Good Luck.
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BHN,

The Pre-Joining Fitness Test minimum standard for a male aged under 24 is level 8.06 on the MSFT ('beep test'). The corresponding standard for a female (I'm not making any assumptions!) is level 5.00.

As has been pointed out, you will be expected to reach a higher level once in the Service - indeed before passing out from IOT. Clearly, the fitter you are the better, it all points to preparation, motivation etc. It also gives you one less thing to worry about.

Good luck,

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If you can't reach 13.0 when you join you should be Fecking embarassed!
Going for the minimum will always make you unpopular in training
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Mmmmm,
I would not worry about it too much. I trained quite hard for IOT, a while ago now, following the advice given in the pre-IOT booklet.
During the 1st assessment run, to stream you into A,B or C fitness streams, as I crossed the line, I looked behind to see 10 to 15 of the new student/cadet officers walking. They could not even run 1.5 miles, pathetic, and these people still got through the course on black monday!
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Talking

From the June 05 OASC Guidance Document.

MULTI STAGE FITNESS TEST (SHUTTLE RUN)
AGE 17-24 25-29 30-34 35-39 40-44 45-49 50+
MALE 9-10 8-10 8-3 7-4 6-1 5-1 4-3
FEMALE 6-10 5-6 5-3 4-7 4-3 3-9 3-5

PRESS-UP TEST (Time Permitted; 1 minute)
AGE 17-24 25-29 30-34 35-39 40-44 45-49 50+
MALE 13 12 11 10 9 8 7
FEMALE 10 9 8 7 6 5 4

SIT-UP TEST (Time Permitted; 1 minute)
AGE 17-24 25-29 30-34 35-39 40-44 45-49 50+
MALE 35 31 27 23 19 15 11
FEMALE 25 22 19 16 13 10 7

SWIMMING TEST (Aircrew, Ops Sp, RAF Regt, PEdO)
Swimming 3 lengths dressed in RAF Coveralls
Treading water for 2 minutes in coveralls
Climbing out of pool unaided, also in coveralls


If a young thruster cannot get 13+ then should not be a member, Train hard, work hard, then you can play hard. Why do I have this info? As a 36 year old ex winchman trying to re-enlist, I want to be as fit as I possibly can and prove my worth at OASC for my reselection...... next week.... gulp 15 years since my last visit!

Hoist to crew winching over and I hope not OUT
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If a young thruster cannot get 13
How do you define young thruster, because when I was going through IOT I would say that at least 50% were not getting Level 13+ at the end of IOT (too many pies after FLC) and that was only 2 years ago.
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Just seen a poster down at the gym which says that from Sep 05 the RAF Fitness test will be a 'max effort' test for all, ie go until you drop.

The basic pass rate is the same as before but there are gradings for Good, Very Good and Excellent. This max effort applies to the MSFT (bleep test) as well as press ups and sit ups (1 min timing).

Basic pass rates look similar to those posted above, but as has been said before, aiming for the minimum is foolish, especially when you are 22 and competing for places.
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Cool Young Thruster....

Young Thruster..... 18-21 years old full of Pi$$ and Vinegar. Full career pattern ahead.

I like the idea that all have to do Fit test to max effort, keep a medic on hand at AFT for the portly Snowdrop or handbrake house members! Myocardial Infarction awaiting to happen!!

Hoist to crew winching over and I hope not out
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Unfortunately, it's a sad fact that far too many of our 'young thrusters' have a maximum which is well below the current minimum standard. And it's very difficult to get rid of these people, who are in the main (med exceptions, obviously) wasters. So while they're unfit to deploy, all the other people who actually take some pride in their fitness and their job get sent out of area more often. Is it any wonder the military is in its current state?
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Old 15th Aug 2005, 19:56
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but the overarching question is what are we for? Many moons ago a young, keen, L1A2 kept fit doing team sports on wednesdays and saturdays, some sundays and trained other evenings. Now we have no time for sport, evenings are for 6000s and trivia, weekends are - for too many - a commuting nightmare.

A 'new' diktat from those famously knowledgable on fitness personnel; the rocks, says our fitness must be equal to that of an infantryman ..... when they fix aircraft I will do a BFT.



MB&T.
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"Just seen a poster down at the gym which says that from Sep 05 the RAF Fitness test will be a 'max effort' test for all, ie go until you drop.

The basic pass rate is the same as before but there are gradings for Good, Very Good and Excellent. This max effort applies to the MSFT (bleep test) as well as press ups and sit ups (1 min timing)."

I wonder what the incentive will be to go further than the minimum? Higher pay band? Better 6000 / OJAR? Extra Leave?

Fail to see the point of this, as there will be no benefit to achieving more than the bloke who passes at the minimum.

Just set a PROPER standard and get shot of those who can't/won't/don't achieve it.
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I concur mon brave...
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Old 15th Aug 2005, 21:01
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Can't say I ever made 13+, best I ever got was about 11.4. I could do a mile and a half in about 8:30 so was reasonably fit, just never seemed to be able to do the turning round bit very efficiently.
Best one I saw was a chap who was told by the PTI to stop at " beep beep beep...level 16", made me tired just watching him and he was hardly breathing.
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Old 15th Aug 2005, 21:59
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our fitness must be equal to that of an infantryman
Why?

Just seen a poster down at the gym which says that from Sep 05 the RAF Fitness test will be a 'max effort' test for all, ie go until you drop.
What a great idea! Now how do you spell 'Health and Safety".....?

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