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Old 5th Aug 2005, 21:05
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RN Rescue Attempt

Impressive amount of Friday Afternoon RAF effort going in to the 'RN Rescue attempt' on the telly at the moment. Hear that a Merlin and a herc were involved today to feed the C17. Didn't see anyone from the RN, although I'm led to believe that there is one Cdr on the C17! Anyone else involved? The C17 was shown leaving live on sky news, although the reporters reckon that it will take 20 hours to get to Russia (seems a bit long to me). Fingers crossed that it all works.
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20 hours seems fairly good going seeing as it is the other end of Russia... Should've sent a Herc - we could've cracked in just under 20 days...with a following wind

Fingers crossed indeed tho
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It's just that 20 hours is a long flight without refuelling.
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20 hours is a long flight WITH refuelling!!
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20 hours to a crew of seven trapped under the water might be a lifetime!

Prayers for their safe rescue!
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Yes, you're quite right SASless

God bless all aboard, and let us all pray for a happy ending
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Using Google Earth (pretty rough) from Prestwick to Kamchatka is about 4000 nm great circle or abt 10 hrs as described on the BBC last night. The C-17 has already landed in Russia.

The other 10 hours are taken up by road/sea journeys to get to the location off the Kamchatkan Pensinsula.

Good luck and God Speed to all involved.
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The 20 hours quoted was to fly to Kamchatka, transport 60 miles by road, sail to scene of search and be ready to start ops. Pretty good going in my book

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OK, they didn't make that very clear on the news last night - just said, as the C17 took off, that it would take 20 hours to get there. I agree that 20 hours to be at the rescue site is pretty damn good - especially when you consider that they will be sailing for 3-4 hours. Also impressive to see that despite how tightly stretched the RAF is, we managed to throw things together in very quick order and be first foreign nation on scene despite the distances involved. Shows we can do it when things count. Well done everyone involved.

Fingers still crossed.
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Best of luck to all involved in the request attempt ... praying that the 7 sailors on the seabed make it out safe and sound.

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I believe that as well as the C130 and the Merlin, a Nimrod was diverted from a training flight to ferry specialists to meet the C17 at Pwestwick.
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Sub safe, excellent news, well done RN DSRV team (cut it free), 99Sqn and others! All seven crew walked off it.
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Guys/Girls,

I really dont care which Service did it, but again all the PEOPLE involved pullled out the stops to get a very high profile job done in a professional manner.

Well Done (or is it termed a 'BZ' if the Fishy types are involved!).

But as an aside do you think that the British public fully appreciate how flexible and multi-task the UK military is? When the whingeing on budgets and Defence costs start will those with the treasury pen consider/remember activities like this?



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BBC report

Video

Mentions submersible entangled in net and “Underwater Antenna”
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Well done to all involved. With all the change, constant management speak and bad news. We tend to forget that we still do things as well as anyone else in the world. Another job well done by the Royal Navy
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MaroonMan4

Not taking ANYTHING away from all involved in this, but MaroonMan4, if you look at the facts of who was actually involved in the actual rescue, you will see that it was carried out by a UK company James Fisher Rumic Ltd with a team of 8 civilian operators. They operate, service and maintain Scorpio 45. Perhaps there is a risk that the “UK public” and more importantly, those with the “Treasury pen” will see this as a ringing endorsement for contractorisation, privatisation and civilianisation?
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Congrats all round for a difficult job well done. Isn't teamwork a fantastic thing.

I hope the submariners get over their ordeal quickly.

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How come they can't build a sub that has a couple of extra sma;; openings, one at the front and one at the back, then if it gets stuck somewhere, they could dock onto those hatches and pump air through the vessel, extending the avilable resue time? Even the Space Station can do that.
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Onan, I think you need to pay more attention to where your right index finger thinks it is!
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Pr00ne,

Thanks, yep I was taken by the 3 ringer on TV, thinking that it was military team.

Now informed, but still a bloody good job.
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