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Old 31st Jul 2005, 14:48
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Thumbs up C-130j - Sf

Another J/K thread,but hey interesting times ahead for the J doing the SF role.Looking forward to it , any one else?
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and the prize for the most pathetic fishing expedition ever goes to (drum roll here) ........ the idiot who started this thread!
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Looking at his posting record, though infrequent, he does seem to be a C-130 ALM rather than a journo.

The fact that the C-130 has SF commitments is no secret, and it's widely suspected that the OEU may have been doing or exploring SF stuff with the J (indeed several magazines have reported these suspicions as though they were fact), but unless he's about to break big news I fear that Blackbelt may have a while to wait before he sees these "interesting times ahead for the J doing the SF role."

But hats off to him for being excited and enthusiastic about it.

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Good job this is the right kind of secure environment to discuss SF matters too...
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Old 31st Jul 2005, 20:22
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indeed several magazines have reported these suspicions as though they were fact
..this from Flight International cover story "Rising to the Challenge" 12-18 July 2005:

"the aircraft (ie the 'J') is cleared for roles bar special forces, and it won't be too long before we do that as well," says Sqn Ldr Don Macintosh, officer commanding 24 Sqn, the operational evaluation unit for the type"

..so it isn't just discussed here, and perhaps the original poster isn't too far adrift from the Party Line.
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People believing everything they read. Banter aginst journalists. Discussion on what should or should not be discussed on this forum. All good stuff but how long before this turns into yet another K/J slagging match?
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People believing everything they read. Banter aginst journalists. Discussion on what should or should not be discussed on this forum. All good stuff but how long before this turns into yet another K/J slagging match?

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Good job this is the right kind of secure environment to discuss SF matters too
I'm saying nothing....
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Cummon guys-move with the times-the J will make a superb platform-in-built NVG compatabilty, etc,etc all it needs is a Nav on the flight deck to help out with the heavy-duty workload.
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in-built NVG compatabilty, etc,etc
So what's this etc, etc bit then? Is it good?



PS. If this looks like a bite then I'm sorry gents
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Hmm...

No Heavy Drop clearance, no Sim Sticks, trim issues, vibe issues, no cupola, plus a whole host of other issues that are not for discussion in a public forum......

....I'd love to see how a 3-man crew ALARP would work as well.....

IMHO this seems to be being pushed from the bottom up, so to speak - a bit like an unsolicited contract bid. Happy to be corrected if wrong, though. UNCLAS replies only, mind.

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but how long before this turns into yet another K/J slagging match?
About 5 posts by the look of it
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Cool idea !!!
Then we can stick a couple of extra crew members on and hence find/create some more jobs for commissioned wasters that are still knocking around...!
Better still spend a few quid on the kit we have,maybe some on the frames we should have bought and we'll be sweet. Hey we could....shutting up now !

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But it is amusing to watch all the 'k' guys bite!! Still wont affect me, just being a route queen, and nor do i care who has the role. The 'j' has its issues and problems, but in the hot (and high) climates that we work in, there is no doubt the 'j' is far superior as it has significantly more power!
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Thankfully the mighty "J" will also retain it's sweet smelling flight deck OKOC

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No Heavy Drop clearance, no Sim Sticks, trim issues, vibe issues, no cupola, plus a whole host of other issues that are not for discussion in a public forum......
Didn't the yanks do a 30,000 pound airdrop in Iraq earlier this year in a J? 30,000 pounds seems pretty heavy to me.

No sim sticks: Quiet a few nations have cleared the J for that after comrehensive paratrooping trails.
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Vibe issues: fiddle sticks! This issue was raised and dropped years ago.

They can be discussed if they have been placed on the public record through a newspaper article.

What's a cupola?? It's got a cupholder! Is that what a nav onboard would be used for? Refilling the contents of one's cupholder?

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Old 6th Oct 2005, 09:24
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Need a Nav....of course dear boy...can't expect the whiz kids to get out of their seats and do something so common as turning the kettle on now can you?
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Such a shame they didn't include a soft panel for the galley and install one of those Italian J model Cappucino machines
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Does the flight deck smel sweeter because of the lack of the future McDonalds trainee?

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