Redundancy Tranche 2
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Redundancy Tranche 2
The latest U need 2 know:-
1400 places - 1500 applicants
Now, hot off the rumour machine (AMPLT)
Aircraft Engineering Tech (WO) 12 required, 4 applications - looks good for compulsory!!
A Tech Av (Av + Ae) C/T 80 reqd, 122 appls
A Tech Av (Av + Ae) Sgt 110 reqd, 197 appls
A Tech Av (Av + Ae) Cpl 80 reqd, 188 appls
A Tech M (P + A) C/T 90 reqd, 124 appls
A Tech M (P + A) Sgt 190 reqd, 265 appls
A Tech M (P + A) Cpl 165 reqd , 295 appls
1400 places - 1500 applicants
Now, hot off the rumour machine (AMPLT)
Aircraft Engineering Tech (WO) 12 required, 4 applications - looks good for compulsory!!
A Tech Av (Av + Ae) C/T 80 reqd, 122 appls
A Tech Av (Av + Ae) Sgt 110 reqd, 197 appls
A Tech Av (Av + Ae) Cpl 80 reqd, 188 appls
A Tech M (P + A) C/T 90 reqd, 124 appls
A Tech M (P + A) Sgt 190 reqd, 265 appls
A Tech M (P + A) Cpl 165 reqd , 295 appls
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So in the engineering world, 727 people sought from the total 1400 with 1195 volunteers of the total 1500 applicants, or only 305 other trade volunteers of the 673 required. Which means that whilst our engineers are scrabbling to be first out of the door, many of the other trades/branches will be subjected to compulsory redundancies very shortly...
Champagne anyone...?
Brilliant.
So our aircraft sit around, unserviceable, gathering dust whilst tremendous man management schemes see the hard working linies demoralised and scrabbling to get out. Can't say I blame y'all one bit. Good luck!
PS. If you're looking for any Herc pilots, you'll find most of us here
So our aircraft sit around, unserviceable, gathering dust whilst tremendous man management schemes see the hard working linies demoralised and scrabbling to get out. Can't say I blame y'all one bit. Good luck!
PS. If you're looking for any Herc pilots, you'll find most of us here
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Tranche 3 to be cx'd?
The grapevine, that source of accurate info over many moons now has it that Tranche 3 may be cancelled as "The RAF may be untenable at 41,000, looks like there may be a need for more due to current op tempo and future semi-planned deployments" .... oops. 
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'RAF untenable at 41,000....'
That seems about right...with 39,000 officers an 2000 'other ranks' who is going to do the real work !
I'm sure the Lyneham experience,leaning the tech manpower so that u have no servicable a/c and allowing crass engineering decisions to fester the morale of the troops, will spread elsewhere.
Contemplating redressing OC 'Eng' Wg as my career has been seriously impeded by incompetance...but then, I haven't had one for years anyhow...
Vote with your feet...
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That seems about right...with 39,000 officers an 2000 'other ranks' who is going to do the real work !
I'm sure the Lyneham experience,leaning the tech manpower so that u have no servicable a/c and allowing crass engineering decisions to fester the morale of the troops, will spread elsewhere.
Contemplating redressing OC 'Eng' Wg as my career has been seriously impeded by incompetance...but then, I haven't had one for years anyhow...
Vote with your feet...
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I see these figures have been quoted as coming from the AMPLT but has anyone seen them on any web or intranet site? or in black and white on an "official" memo/ circular?
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Never mind only a couple of months to go and we'll all know for sure. Wonder if ac availability will be improved with all the engineers going. I hear they won't be taken away from the line for scheduled maintenance as often as they're planning to increase the time between maintenance to offset the loss of all those engineers. Got to be good news, keep those filthy engineers away from our ac so we can fly them more.
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some of us are interesed because we might be departing the service...
oh and by the way
you really should have worked harder at school..
then you could have been an engineer..
" you can teach a monkey how to ride a bike BUT have you ever seen a monkey fix one?"
oh and by the way
away from out ac so we can fly them more
then you could have been an engineer..
" you can teach a monkey how to ride a bike BUT have you ever seen a monkey fix one?"
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" you can teach a monkey how to ride a bike BUT have you ever seen a monkey fix one?"
Intersting analogy........ but what I can't quite grasp is why they pay the "monkey on the bike" twice as much as the "did much better at school" engineer......perhaps you could enlighten us
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Intersting analogy........ but what I can't quite grasp is why they pay the "monkey on the bike" twice as much as the "did much better at school" engineer......perhaps you could enlighten us
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Anyone got any idea when the announcements are actually going to be made ?
Given that 6 months notice for volunteers is required and the pension/pay increases are due on 1 Apr, a 30 Sept announcement would be a rather easy way of saving a few pennies.....
BT
Given that 6 months notice for volunteers is required and the pension/pay increases are due on 1 Apr, a 30 Sept announcement would be a rather easy way of saving a few pennies.....
BT
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Announcement to be made 30th September, for an exit date of 30th April (applicants) or 30th September (compulsory). This means those going on application will get that extra pay rise, but crucially I suspect, MoD does not have to make 2 phases of redundancy payments in the same financial year.
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Announcement to be made 30th September, for an exit date of 30th April (applicants) or 30th September (compulsory). This means those going on application will get that extra pay rise, but crucially I suspect, MoD does not have to make 2 phases of redundancy payments in the same financial year.
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Forgive me Safety but 6 months from 30 Sep 05 is 31 Mar 06 so they wont have to pay the massive pay rise effective from Apr 06. Much cheaper. Tranche 1 were told on 31 Mar 05 for exit on 30 Sep 05. So exactly 6 months then for the lucky ones.
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HOODED, You are forgiven ?
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Forgiven, yes, your logic is perfect, 6 months from 30 Sep 05 is 31 Mar 06. However, read the signal, exit date is "on or before 30 Apr 06" for those who applied for Tranche 2. So, yes Tranche 2 redundancies will get the humungous pay rise due to us in Apr 06.
I made the same mistake, I assumed to much !
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Forgiven, yes, your logic is perfect, 6 months from 30 Sep 05 is 31 Mar 06. However, read the signal, exit date is "on or before 30 Apr 06" for those who applied for Tranche 2. So, yes Tranche 2 redundancies will get the humungous pay rise due to us in Apr 06.
I made the same mistake, I assumed to much !
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Many thanks - I read the signal and then noted the disparity in dates and naturally (cynically) wondered if the MOD would try and save some more pennies.....
BT
I agree with your tongue in cheek 'humungous payrise' comment; however, taking the inevitable less than 3% increase on pensions, it still amounts to approx £500 per annum which is better in my pocket etc etc
Many thanks - I read the signal and then noted the disparity in dates and naturally (cynically) wondered if the MOD would try and save some more pennies.....
BT
I agree with your tongue in cheek 'humungous payrise' comment; however, taking the inevitable less than 3% increase on pensions, it still amounts to approx £500 per annum which is better in my pocket etc etc
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So Tranche 3 cancelled? Any official (or rumour control) news on this yet? If so, will they re-introduce FRIs, bearing in mind we're looking at a pilot shortage in the not-too-distant future? Seems that BA have missed their recruitment targets for the second year in a row now - nice push-pull factors about to align methinks!
Looks like FRIs for engineers might be a good idea as well, given the over-subscription for T1&2!
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Looks like FRIs for engineers might be a good idea as well, given the over-subscription for T1&2!
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FRI for Engineers - you're joking right! Or did you mean for Engineering officers? You know the ones that sign ADF and LIMs the ac so it can still fly when there's no spares or not enough engineers left to fix it. Well at least until it's that jet/cabs turn for scheduled maintenance. Gonna need to order a lot more F703/4s shortly me thinks.