C-130J "Climbs like a Rocket"
Do give it a rest, FS.....
Last time I was on a C130 flight deck was just before the 2 Gp opening fly past. For 'they' had decided that we needed to see the route prior to the flypast itself as we were due to lead an E-3D and a (very new then) C130J. The captain had requested a RAS in the holding area (?) and the frequent changes in heading etc weren't making the nav's job very easy. But we (the '10 Nav and I) were dead impressed by the way the C130K nav sorted out speed and heading to compensate once we set off for the IP. But as luck would have it, cloud prevented the recce and the crew knocked it on the head.
Last time I was on a C130 flight deck was just before the 2 Gp opening fly past. For 'they' had decided that we needed to see the route prior to the flypast itself as we were due to lead an E-3D and a (very new then) C130J. The captain had requested a RAS in the holding area (?) and the frequent changes in heading etc weren't making the nav's job very easy. But we (the '10 Nav and I) were dead impressed by the way the C130K nav sorted out speed and heading to compensate once we set off for the IP. But as luck would have it, cloud prevented the recce and the crew knocked it on the head.
Gentleman Aviator
Wasn't that race originally between a FJ and a Wessex or something
Very nearly managed it once as Huey vs Hunter ... but they realised we didn't have any brakes....
Anyway, back to the thread. Climb performance for the A400M carrying 17 T of trash on a 3000 nm sector is claimed to be FL310 in less than 30 minutes. Hardly rocket-like, but it will then cruise at M0.68 at up to FL370.
At least the J Flies - Not Fast Albert for nothing.
Yes, the 'J' does now fly. As well it ought to by now, Mr Lockheed!
Fairly obviously, we will have to wait until the A400M flies before learning whether it meets its performance statements. Incidentally, for those who are interested, http://www.airbusmilitary.com/ gives current details. You might note a slightly redesigned fin and tailplane and also the unusual fact that outboard propellors rotate in the opposite direction to the inboards.
Oh - and truckiebloke, thank you for your valued contribution...
Fairly obviously, we will have to wait until the A400M flies before learning whether it meets its performance statements. Incidentally, for those who are interested, http://www.airbusmilitary.com/ gives current details. You might note a slightly redesigned fin and tailplane and also the unusual fact that outboard propellors rotate in the opposite direction to the inboards.
Oh - and truckiebloke, thank you for your valued contribution...
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No-one can argue that the avionics, performance, NVG compatability etc from LM are world beating, something the A-400 will have a hard (but not impossible) time beating. The problem?
We didn't get the decent back end offered by LM. We thought we'd make it 'backwards compatible' (or out-of-date). Ever seen in the back of a RDAF 'J'? Add in taking 2 years to clear paint for carriage as freight, 5 years to clear CDS etc never mind the Boscombe Down luvvies trying to introduce pointless trim warning sytems, a total lack of understanding regarding external fuel tanks and RVSM and we've ended up with a remarkable platform that's been practically tied to the ground by red tape.
Almost makes me want to get involved in procurement - but not quite!
In addition, an enhanced cargo-handling system improves loading and unloading operations.
Almost makes me want to get involved in procurement - but not quite!
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"At least the J flies"
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Well not according to the pan at Lyneham where 1/4 sit U/S.
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Meaning that 3/4 fly, or put another way
At least the J flies.
"At least the J flies"
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Well not according to the pan at Lyneham where 1/4 sit U/S.
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Meaning that 3/4 fly, or put another way
At least the J flies.
>At least the J flies<
Three of them in trail flew low over my abode (SJ 3315ish in LFA 9) at about 1315 today on a northerly heading. Lovely sight and sound -- more please!
Three of them in trail flew low over my abode (SJ 3315ish in LFA 9) at about 1315 today on a northerly heading. Lovely sight and sound -- more please!
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(SJ 3315ish in LFA 9)
... wonder where they thought they were...
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If they were J's I guarantee they knew to within a few meters of exactly where they were
, however I do concede that if they were K's it's a good chance they were lost 
..............but more importantly, teeters you girl, what self respecting SH pilot is going to be affected by Albert roaring by at 250'.......or have things changed that much since I was lucky enough to escape
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
, however I do concede that if they were K's it's a good chance they were lost ..............but more importantly, teeters you girl, what self respecting SH pilot is going to be affected by Albert roaring by at 250'.......or have things changed that much since I was lucky enough to escape all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
>LFA9 is not just for exclusive use of helos - have used it myself a number of times (with clnc).<
I see quite a few FJs and C-130s transiting my bit of LFA 9, together with assorted non-Shawbury rotary traffic. Last years' low-level highlight was a Nimrod R1, of all things.
>Our nav kit is just as accurate as the J's.<
In that case, please insert SJ 328150 and mind the antenna . . . or ask EGOS for Field 24 if you're rotary.
I see quite a few FJs and C-130s transiting my bit of LFA 9, together with assorted non-Shawbury rotary traffic. Last years' low-level highlight was a Nimrod R1, of all things.
>Our nav kit is just as accurate as the J's.<
In that case, please insert SJ 328150 and mind the antenna . . . or ask EGOS for Field 24 if you're rotary.
Yes it is correct that LFA9 is a DUA but anyone can use it if they book 1st. But why would you want to with all those rotary things climbing from and falling into the many fields that they use. Secondly I cannot remember more than a 1/4 of any model of C130 being seviceable at EGDL in the past 6 months.