Any advise please?
Joined: Mar 2005
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From: UK
I do agree with Jackinocko that the RAF needs a mix of DE and UAS candidates but i also disagree with some of the reasoning...
Surely what you're looking for is quality of individual, not what percentage of society they are from. It doesn't matter whether someone has been to uni, is coming straight from school or has been in employment for a few years, if they have what it takes - recruit them! Having recently finished EFT on a UAS, i wouldn't follow half of that 40% to the pub, let alone to war.
Maybe. However, I am currently gaining plenty of experience in the UN Command HQ in Tokyo and would argue that the productivity of this holding post is unparalleled by any other post I may have as a junior officer in the air force.
Disagree. Most guys I joined with are on PC's. I fully intend on staying in until 55.
I am in no way saying that DE's are the only way forward for the future, I just think you need to strike the right balance and recruit the right people.
20 years ago, only the top 2% went to Uni, and the RAF relied on this top 2% to provide just under half of its pilots. Now the top 40% go to Uni, and you're talking about recruiting only from the rest......
"Career compression" - would be a good point if DE blokes' younger age wasn't used to allow an inefficient system to give them longer in pointless andunproductive holding posts.
Most 18 year olds regard 12 years as a life sentence.
I am in no way saying that DE's are the only way forward for the future, I just think you need to strike the right balance and recruit the right people.
Joined: Sep 2004
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From: east of england
Phil,
Ignoring the drivel about relevant merits of degree vs DE, you need to consider what you are going to do if you don't make it as aircrew (many don't). Are you prepared to consider a career in the ground branches? If so maths/economics degree should demonstrate that you're trainable and most branches will be open to you. Something more focussed towards applied engineering is necessary if you want to go for Eng O (not physics or maths).
As to the year out - you look like you've done something reasonably worthwhile - make sure you window dress it properly, so you stand a fair chance.
Good luck
Ignoring the drivel about relevant merits of degree vs DE, you need to consider what you are going to do if you don't make it as aircrew (many don't). Are you prepared to consider a career in the ground branches? If so maths/economics degree should demonstrate that you're trainable and most branches will be open to you. Something more focussed towards applied engineering is necessary if you want to go for Eng O (not physics or maths).
As to the year out - you look like you've done something reasonably worthwhile - make sure you window dress it properly, so you stand a fair chance.
Good luck
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Joined: May 2005
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From: Uk
Thanks again guys,
When I applied for the Sixth form scholarship I was clear that it was 'pilot or bust' for me, and my desire has not changed and neither will my focus.
With regard to the DE or GE debate, I think that it is very much dependant on each individual. If at 17/18 an applicant demonstrates the qualities that the RAF requires then DE would be a good choice. Where as, if at the same age they (the applicant) still showed most of the qualities but a clear potential for growth then spending 3 years at Uni would probably be the better choice. Of course in either case there is a risk that, in the first instance the applicant was not ready for officer training, and in the second, three years at Uni could destroy the qualities previously demonstrated.
When I applied for the Sixth form scholarship I was clear that it was 'pilot or bust' for me, and my desire has not changed and neither will my focus.
With regard to the DE or GE debate, I think that it is very much dependant on each individual. If at 17/18 an applicant demonstrates the qualities that the RAF requires then DE would be a good choice. Where as, if at the same age they (the applicant) still showed most of the qualities but a clear potential for growth then spending 3 years at Uni would probably be the better choice. Of course in either case there is a risk that, in the first instance the applicant was not ready for officer training, and in the second, three years at Uni could destroy the qualities previously demonstrated.
Joined: Aug 2004
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From: Seaford, EAst Sussex
Looks like I took a rather different approach in my application.
Been at University for 2 years, applied DE for Pilot, and have booked a place on Novembers IOT. Definately not a guaranteed route, but worked for me.
Just highlighting the different options available!!
Good luck in what ever approach you choose.
CB
Been at University for 2 years, applied DE for Pilot, and have booked a place on Novembers IOT. Definately not a guaranteed route, but worked for me.
Just highlighting the different options available!!
Good luck in what ever approach you choose.
CB
