RAF Police, waste of space or not?
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Not sure what you're blathering about, but it takes only a couple of mouse clicks from here to see you lot moaning about how much more you reckon you ought to be getting paid. Endless chapters of it.
Not sure what you're blathering about, but it takes only a couple of mouse clicks from here to see you lot moaning about how much more you reckon you ought to be getting paid. Endless chapters of it.
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Fully agree with you Helpful Stacker, just keep those half dozen roles of Kimwipe back, remember, someone might need them, ha ha.
Contoversial Tim ? how apt !
Sense of humour failure is it, ex plod maybe.
What do you class as an education then ? Surely you're not one of that dying breed who think only the officer classes can be educated ? (apologies in advance to the rest who don't share CT's point of view)
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Contoversial Tim ? how apt !Sense of humour failure is it, ex plod maybe.
What do you class as an education then ? Surely you're not one of that dying breed who think only the officer classes can be educated ? (apologies in advance to the rest who don't share CT's point of view)
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Jesus, I hope you don't fly with those eyes,
......and the backroom boys and girls without whom nothing would leave the ground. Army, Navy and Airforces of the World, all equally welcome here
Anyway, I don't think anything particularly vicious has been said about the RAFP, no more than you'd hear in a rugby club or Naafi which when all is said and done is what a forum is to the internet world.
......and the backroom boys and girls without whom nothing would leave the ground. Army, Navy and Airforces of the World, all equally welcome here
Anyway, I don't think anything particularly vicious has been said about the RAFP, no more than you'd hear in a rugby club or Naafi which when all is said and done is what a forum is to the internet world.
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Ignorant and offensive criticism of guys who normally only try and help us in uniform stay OUT of trouble.
Please. Refrain yourselves. Try and post only when you know you are making sense to the whole world - not the little bit you see when you occasionally open your eyes.
Please. Refrain yourselves. Try and post only when you know you are making sense to the whole world - not the little bit you see when you occasionally open your eyes.
In the 70s at Wyton we used to call the RAFP 'Snoops', which they didn't seem to object to. Then some wag started calling them 'Spoons'. They were totally confused, couldn't understand where 'Spoons' came from. Apparently OC security was confused as well.
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My sister married an RAF Policeman.
Can I join in?
kipper
I once met the Provost Marshall of the RAF.
Had the honour to be the staish\'s obediant servant the next day.
kipper
But the Kimberley tikka is very good!!!
Can I join in?
kipper
I once met the Provost Marshall of the RAF.
Had the honour to be the staish\'s obediant servant the next day.
kipper
But the Kimberley tikka is very good!!!
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Plods is another term of endearment.
One plod, can't remember his name said "Never make friends with a policeman."
He was deadly serious. Their duty always came first. If you transgressed in anyway then they would feel obliged to report you.
Mind you, it works the other way too. I found a plod who had falsified a security check sheet. Got him right between the eyes. Naturally I had to report him just in case it was a reverse check.
Worked a treat and we had a very good rapport afterwards with the section - the offending plod was given a right Royal but not charged. Had he been charged it would hav ebeen a branch change offence.
One plod, can't remember his name said "Never make friends with a policeman."
He was deadly serious. Their duty always came first. If you transgressed in anyway then they would feel obliged to report you.
Mind you, it works the other way too. I found a plod who had falsified a security check sheet. Got him right between the eyes. Naturally I had to report him just in case it was a reverse check.
Worked a treat and we had a very good rapport afterwards with the section - the offending plod was given a right Royal but not charged. Had he been charged it would hav ebeen a branch change offence.
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"Elephant Trackers" was one of the more polite epithets for said gendarmes as I recall.
Then there was the throwaway line about what's blue, with a white top, and has an IQ of 144? A gross of RAF policemen!
But even Betty Windsor's finest light blue suited crustaceans were no match for US Navy Shore Patrols in Singapore and Honkers during the Vietnam War!
Then there was the throwaway line about what's blue, with a white top, and has an IQ of 144? A gross of RAF policemen!
But even Betty Windsor's finest light blue suited crustaceans were no match for US Navy Shore Patrols in Singapore and Honkers during the Vietnam War!
Before I left last year I was feckin' shot at by Plods at Cranditz with air rifles. Reported it to the feckin' plods who "investigated" it only they took so long the bloke had left. Oh, and all they could find to charge him with was transgressng SSOs!
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Just one point. When military pilots among you are in places of conflict, and you're tucked up in bed with yer biggles teddy bear in your 'hotel' or wherever, who looks after your aircraft?
It's nice to be nice, thought we were all on the same side?
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I am forced to say that RAFP head the top of my list, and are a total waste of valuable oxygen.
Bravess - you are talking utter tosh - I remember well the nice little Plod who thought it would be a good idea to drop a log every night, whilst he was 'guarding' my flying mushroom. Only thing is, he thought it would be best dropped in the paper towel holder.
Yea, we all felt safe knowing that a nutter was looking after the jet.
And Tim, what station have you been at for the last few years??? help you stay out of trouble. You need assessment dear chap.
Rant over.
Kind regards to all (but NOT RAFP)
TSM
Bravess - you are talking utter tosh - I remember well the nice little Plod who thought it would be a good idea to drop a log every night, whilst he was 'guarding' my flying mushroom. Only thing is, he thought it would be best dropped in the paper towel holder.
Yea, we all felt safe knowing that a nutter was looking after the jet.
And Tim, what station have you been at for the last few years??? help you stay out of trouble. You need assessment dear chap.
Rant over.
Kind regards to all (but NOT RAFP)
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From a "Plod" "Snowdrop" and er...."Filth" i think was one of the less endearing terms used for the RAF Police.
OK deep breath………………
Thank you for the support. However, regarding some of the other users comments, I appreciate and agree that there are quite a few undesirables within my trade. However, can you say that everyone in your chosen profession is perfect?
Secondly:
Not true, the RAF Police have CLE forms which are basically a statement and which is used to record the persons and vehicles details. Once issued and then submitted to the DVLA, the vehicle owner will receive a bill for any unpaid road fund licence. This paperwork is used “outside the wire”.
Thirdly, the comments regarding the Air Rifle, why let the truth get in the way of a good yarn eh? With all due respect Sir, I know all about this case and you were not shot at. As I said earlier there are some undesirables within the trade and you had the misfortune to walk around a corner when said undesirable was taking pot shots at a tree. And I add this not in his defence, but the said Station was on stand down and as it is normally only Police/MPGS/Orderly staff who know what a Station looks like during a stand down, he wasn’t expecting someone to be there. Said undesirable is quite rightly no longer a member of the RAF.
Further, why did you feel the need to demand the man be charged by another RAF Policeman? You are an Officer of the RAF, the person concerned was an A/Cpl. You do know that you are allowed to charge person subordinate to you don't you?
In summary, my philosophy is that we are all military and we should help each other out as much as possible. With this in mind, I will always try to find a positive solution when dealing with people. Be it an officer too drunk to drive, yet still wants to; I’ll offer him/her a “blue light” taxi back to their home. But reading some of the past comments and the obvious contempt they have for the RAF Police, why should I bother?
PS Monkeybumhead, if the RAF weren’t so over subscribed with multi engine aircrew, then perhaps there would be more money for parking spaces.
OK deep breath………………
I hope none of the RAFP reading this attribute the replies to genuine Pilots. It's such a shame that these forum have been hijacked by the pondlife.
Secondly:
As for the tax disc thing, if the car is parked on a patch outside the fence there is nothing more they can really do than you or I.
Thirdly, the comments regarding the Air Rifle, why let the truth get in the way of a good yarn eh? With all due respect Sir, I know all about this case and you were not shot at. As I said earlier there are some undesirables within the trade and you had the misfortune to walk around a corner when said undesirable was taking pot shots at a tree. And I add this not in his defence, but the said Station was on stand down and as it is normally only Police/MPGS/Orderly staff who know what a Station looks like during a stand down, he wasn’t expecting someone to be there. Said undesirable is quite rightly no longer a member of the RAF.
Further, why did you feel the need to demand the man be charged by another RAF Policeman? You are an Officer of the RAF, the person concerned was an A/Cpl. You do know that you are allowed to charge person subordinate to you don't you?
In summary, my philosophy is that we are all military and we should help each other out as much as possible. With this in mind, I will always try to find a positive solution when dealing with people. Be it an officer too drunk to drive, yet still wants to; I’ll offer him/her a “blue light” taxi back to their home. But reading some of the past comments and the obvious contempt they have for the RAF Police, why should I bother?
PS Monkeybumhead, if the RAF weren’t so over subscribed with multi engine aircrew, then perhaps there would be more money for parking spaces.
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I guess the replies could be broken down into those negative [had a bad experience] and the positive/indifferent [helped/had little contact].
I've had good and bad contact throughout my service. They have a job to do, and, like any branch, if you meet a moron it is likely to sour your view of the whole lot.
On balance, my experience has been that the good by far outweighs the bad; they've got a job to do and by and large if they weren't there you'd soon notice the difference.
- Who would guard your ac on det in an 'at risk' location?
- Who would give you advice on security matters and help you set up your section security prior to the annual inspection?
- Who would the local plods liaise with to gain agreement to deal with the lad that got drunk and disorderly on Sat night in the local town [magistrates court or CO's bollocking]?
- Who would enforce the speed limit on camp [quarters, kids, springs to mind]?
And so on...
I've had good and bad contact throughout my service. They have a job to do, and, like any branch, if you meet a moron it is likely to sour your view of the whole lot.
On balance, my experience has been that the good by far outweighs the bad; they've got a job to do and by and large if they weren't there you'd soon notice the difference.
- Who would guard your ac on det in an 'at risk' location?
- Who would give you advice on security matters and help you set up your section security prior to the annual inspection?
- Who would the local plods liaise with to gain agreement to deal with the lad that got drunk and disorderly on Sat night in the local town [magistrates court or CO's bollocking]?
- Who would enforce the speed limit on camp [quarters, kids, springs to mind]?
And so on...
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Guys. Getting a tad personal - had one complaint but I'd rather get on with Saturday jobs, if you see what I mean. Did a small edit.
Btw. The PPRuNe rule laid down by Danny last July still stands. No swearing of the real kind or **** these.
Have a good day.
Btw. The PPRuNe rule laid down by Danny last July still stands. No swearing of the real kind or **** these.
Have a good day.
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In response to your comment about the over subscription of multi engine aircrew being the cause of so few parking spaces I think you need to know what has happened at Lyneham. Some senior EngO decided to merge both fleets sets of maintainers, thus creating larger shifts. These shifts were moved to operate out of hangars with little enough parking at the best of times (J2 & J3)and with so many people who live out having to drive in these spaces don't hang around. It isn't a question of money but space!
FFJP
Just days before crimbo a small select few from eng wing here at lyneham were tasked with the job of guarding an ac in an at risk location which was broken.
Are the RAF Regiment not good enough to advise on security? They are, after all, the ones who train up the station guard force. The drunken yobs should take whats due, just like any normal person would. Just cos we wear a uniform it doesn't give us the right to get drunk and fight with the locals.
Yes they do enforce the speed limits on camp, behind the wire. Not once have I seen them enforce the speed limit on the quaters patch where I live, and there are some idiots who think they are the next Jenson Button.
I did have to chuckle, as did most of the rest of the station, when one night the guards were doing their bit on patrol and noticed the door on the cricket pavillion wasn't shut properly. Upon investigating they found a dog handler (not an aircraft electrician) curled up, snoozing, with the dog. With security like that I feel safer than a safe thing in a safe place.
In response to your comment about the over subscription of multi engine aircrew being the cause of so few parking spaces I think you need to know what has happened at Lyneham. Some senior EngO decided to merge both fleets sets of maintainers, thus creating larger shifts. These shifts were moved to operate out of hangars with little enough parking at the best of times (J2 & J3)and with so many people who live out having to drive in these spaces don't hang around. It isn't a question of money but space!
FFJP
Just days before crimbo a small select few from eng wing here at lyneham were tasked with the job of guarding an ac in an at risk location which was broken.
Are the RAF Regiment not good enough to advise on security? They are, after all, the ones who train up the station guard force. The drunken yobs should take whats due, just like any normal person would. Just cos we wear a uniform it doesn't give us the right to get drunk and fight with the locals.
Yes they do enforce the speed limits on camp, behind the wire. Not once have I seen them enforce the speed limit on the quaters patch where I live, and there are some idiots who think they are the next Jenson Button.
I did have to chuckle, as did most of the rest of the station, when one night the guards were doing their bit on patrol and noticed the door on the cricket pavillion wasn't shut properly. Upon investigating they found a dog handler (not an aircraft electrician) curled up, snoozing, with the dog. With security like that I feel safer than a safe thing in a safe place.
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HI all,
Well I had to write in reply to this topic. So took the time to register and trust me I will read other topics and no doubt join in with the general banter. OK first off I am a RAF copper. If you have decided you don't want to read on then fine See ya.
So you have decided that you want to know more, good well read on.
First off if you have had a bad experience with a RAF copper then sorry but just think on, we are not all like that Pratt who wound you up so please don't generalise. Most, if not all you military drivers, will have spent time at Valley and I spent many years there too and now that there are a lot less RAF coppers there some of you guys may well be wishing they would post all the RAF chaps back because the MPGS may well be a lot less understanding of 'High Jinks' than we would be. What with you guys riding Harley's around the inside of the mess and abseiling from the balcony on a Sunday morning! much to my amusment I have to add. I was wrongly informed that all pilots where pillocks when I joined up. I say wrongly because I got to know many of you guys very well during my time at Valley and I discovered that you drivers and back seater's are actually not all bad. We had a great time. As I am sure that the guys who played in our station band and the guys who discovered the joys of drinking straight vodka all night with me and then going to work in the morning will tell you that we are not all bad. There are of course idiots in your line of work as well and I think I had the miss fortune to meet many of them as well. My point is don't tar us all with the same brush and you may find that the next time you come across a RAF copper who has been told by the boss to stop every grow bag and check their sideys (trust me that is the last thing we want to be doing) that he/she is just doing what they are told and would rather be doing something less pointless like jobbing scroats who have actually committed a crime. You will be seeing less of us anyway as we return to core policing duties rather than standing on the gate. O yes and one other thing, I did things the wrong way round and was a civvie copper before joining the RAF and trust me you guys get away with a lot that you would be in court for if the home office lot got hold of you, and you can't play the rank card with them either. Most of us will do what we can to get you out of bother (like getting you back to your room to sleep the drink off rather than jobbing you) so it works both ways people.
Well I had to write in reply to this topic. So took the time to register and trust me I will read other topics and no doubt join in with the general banter. OK first off I am a RAF copper. If you have decided you don't want to read on then fine See ya.
So you have decided that you want to know more, good well read on.
First off if you have had a bad experience with a RAF copper then sorry but just think on, we are not all like that Pratt who wound you up so please don't generalise. Most, if not all you military drivers, will have spent time at Valley and I spent many years there too and now that there are a lot less RAF coppers there some of you guys may well be wishing they would post all the RAF chaps back because the MPGS may well be a lot less understanding of 'High Jinks' than we would be. What with you guys riding Harley's around the inside of the mess and abseiling from the balcony on a Sunday morning! much to my amusment I have to add. I was wrongly informed that all pilots where pillocks when I joined up. I say wrongly because I got to know many of you guys very well during my time at Valley and I discovered that you drivers and back seater's are actually not all bad. We had a great time. As I am sure that the guys who played in our station band and the guys who discovered the joys of drinking straight vodka all night with me and then going to work in the morning will tell you that we are not all bad. There are of course idiots in your line of work as well and I think I had the miss fortune to meet many of them as well. My point is don't tar us all with the same brush and you may find that the next time you come across a RAF copper who has been told by the boss to stop every grow bag and check their sideys (trust me that is the last thing we want to be doing) that he/she is just doing what they are told and would rather be doing something less pointless like jobbing scroats who have actually committed a crime. You will be seeing less of us anyway as we return to core policing duties rather than standing on the gate. O yes and one other thing, I did things the wrong way round and was a civvie copper before joining the RAF and trust me you guys get away with a lot that you would be in court for if the home office lot got hold of you, and you can't play the rank card with them either. Most of us will do what we can to get you out of bother (like getting you back to your room to sleep the drink off rather than jobbing you) so it works both ways people.