Armed Forces Memorial
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A most laudable project IMHO. Good to see that, according to the Admiral, the names of those killed in training accidents will also feature - a point which the website doesn't make absolutely clear.
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http://www.forcesmemorial.org.uk/
Q14-16 in the Q&A section makes it clear who qualifies. Remember, that one question ALWAYS asked at an Inquiry - 'was the person on duty at the time he was killed or injured?'
If the answer is 'yes', then clearly his name goes on the memorial.
My donation on the way [credit card on line is v. simple, including a gift aid tick box - eg 28p claimed back from the IR for every £1 donated - substantial stuff].
Come on, PPruners - lets show ARRSE the way!
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Q14-16 in the Q&A section makes it clear who qualifies. Remember, that one question ALWAYS asked at an Inquiry - 'was the person on duty at the time he was killed or injured?'
If the answer is 'yes', then clearly his name goes on the memorial.
My donation on the way [credit card on line is v. simple, including a gift aid tick box - eg 28p claimed back from the IR for every £1 donated - substantial stuff].
Come on, PPruners - lets show ARRSE the way!
[ http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn/Forums/v...c/t=15153.html ]
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Here's the reponse from Lt Col Callender (AFMP) to my query re-training accidents:
'Thank you for your enquiry. I can confirm that Service personnel who are killed as a result of accidents while on duty will almost certainly be included on the Armed Forces Memorial.'
Mosspigs - no problem! I was 'trained to speed-read by the system', but more often than not the the vino had a negative affect --------
ORAC - agree - sticky called for.
'Thank you for your enquiry. I can confirm that Service personnel who are killed as a result of accidents while on duty will almost certainly be included on the Armed Forces Memorial.'
Mosspigs - no problem! I was 'trained to speed-read by the system', but more often than not the the vino had a negative affect --------
ORAC - agree - sticky called for.
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I'm not trying to be controversial, but how would the deaths at Deepcut feature with respect to this memorial. I fear some official Army folk would be embarrassed to acknowledge such events?
I'm not trying to be controversial, but how would the deaths at Deepcut feature with respect to this memorial. I fear some official Army folk would be embarrassed to acknowledge such events?
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Having seen the memorials that the French have to what is largely "our" ( and the Commonwealth) dead, I have very strong views that such a memorial is far too long overdue. I am very glad to see the proposed site being central to the country rather than another political gimmic in London.
It is particulary irritating that the US have a long established site at Maddingley Cambridge that is lacking for UK Forces.
`Re-phrase` I dont begrudge the US memorial, just p155ed that we do not have something similar.
As for Deepcut, whatever the circumstance; sons daughters brothers sisters etc etc died `on duty` and deserve to be remembered. Lets not make the WW I mistake regarding shell shock - post traumatic stress repeat itself in another guise.
We may not get on too well with the French, but they honour our dead better than we ever will. ....and the British public should be ashamed because of that.
Now where is that credit card..............
It is particulary irritating that the US have a long established site at Maddingley Cambridge that is lacking for UK Forces.
`Re-phrase` I dont begrudge the US memorial, just p155ed that we do not have something similar.
As for Deepcut, whatever the circumstance; sons daughters brothers sisters etc etc died `on duty` and deserve to be remembered. Lets not make the WW I mistake regarding shell shock - post traumatic stress repeat itself in another guise.
We may not get on too well with the French, but they honour our dead better than we ever will. ....and the British public should be ashamed because of that.
Now where is that credit card..............
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Excellent idea,
I concur Tiger-mate's views that it is good to see it being sited outside London for once.
Will also be making a donation in respect to a number of friends and colleagues that have sadly passed away.
I concur Tiger-mate's views that it is good to see it being sited outside London for once.
Will also be making a donation in respect to a number of friends and colleagues that have sadly passed away.
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Never mind the Lottery 
any decent minded Government would recognise the sacrifice made by their citizens and stump up the money from their own coffers.
Geting rid of a couple of the more beaurocratic and pointless departments or stopping wasted cash on the numerous corrupt schemes and jobs for the boys which our 'servants' use to feather their own nests would pay for it 1000 times over.
any decent minded Government would recognise the sacrifice made by their citizens and stump up the money from their own coffers. Geting rid of a couple of the more beaurocratic and pointless departments or stopping wasted cash on the numerous corrupt schemes and jobs for the boys which our 'servants' use to feather their own nests would pay for it 1000 times over.
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I agree this is long over due and the design looks excellent.
decent minded goverment pah!!
lottery money appears only to benefit politically correct minorities and obscure art projects!
Donation on its way
decent minded goverment pah!!
lottery money appears only to benefit politically correct minorities and obscure art projects!
Donation on its way
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Must admit, my first thoughts were that HMG should pay;
Then thought some more and got my C/card out - after all it will be OUR National Memorial;
As for Lottery funding !!!
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Then thought some more and got my C/card out - after all it will be OUR National Memorial;
As for Lottery funding !!!
Am only SLF, but am also full (though only just) member of RBL
PZULBA - Out of Africa
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I think we can agree to a sticky! I personally would love to see PPRuNe members giving to this. It is truly a justified memorial to the ultimate sacrifice of over 16,000 of our armed forces.
The link is on this thread. Let us go for it.
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The link is on this thread. Let us go for it.
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Thanks for making this a sticky.
Does anyone know if the Forces Memorial is a registered charity? If it is we can make this slimy government contribute as well. If you are a UK taxpayer please donate using the "gift aid" scheme. Then for every pound you donate you can at least force the government to contibute 26 pence (IIRC). Its not as much as they should be contributing but it is better than nothing!!!
Reaches for credit card in memory of a few good friends
Thanks for making this a sticky.
Does anyone know if the Forces Memorial is a registered charity? If it is we can make this slimy government contribute as well. If you are a UK taxpayer please donate using the "gift aid" scheme. Then for every pound you donate you can at least force the government to contibute 26 pence (IIRC). Its not as much as they should be contributing but it is better than nothing!!!
Reaches for credit card in memory of a few good friends