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Cyrus,
What’s all this tribe nonsense? tell you what, how about, to paraphrase your rhetoric; Young Mohammed (UK tribe) in his new Typhoon or his Tornado GR4, or how about Young Mohammed (US tribe) in his FA-22?
Racist nonsense………………………………………..
If your strange terminology refers to Islamic extremists then I think we are far more likely to suffer from the attentions of “Young Mohammed (3rd generation UK tribe)” walking into, for instance, WH Smiths or Burger King with explosives strapped to his body and pulling the wire, how are you going to stop that with a fleet of nice shiny new jets or warships?
SASless,
We don’t back any side if the Indians and Pakistanis go nuclear we simply help to pick up the pieces afterwards.
What’s all this tribe nonsense? tell you what, how about, to paraphrase your rhetoric; Young Mohammed (UK tribe) in his new Typhoon or his Tornado GR4, or how about Young Mohammed (US tribe) in his FA-22?
Racist nonsense………………………………………..
If your strange terminology refers to Islamic extremists then I think we are far more likely to suffer from the attentions of “Young Mohammed (3rd generation UK tribe)” walking into, for instance, WH Smiths or Burger King with explosives strapped to his body and pulling the wire, how are you going to stop that with a fleet of nice shiny new jets or warships?
SASless,
We don’t back any side if the Indians and Pakistanis go nuclear we simply help to pick up the pieces afterwards.
Suspicion breeds confidence
If your strange terminology refers to Islamic extremists then I think we are far more likely to suffer from the attentions of “Young Mohammed (3rd generation UK tribe)” walking into, for instance, WH Smiths or Burger King with explosives strapped to his body and pulling the wire, how are you going to stop that with a fleet of nice shiny new jets or warships?
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Navaleye,
Trace your own family tree back a couple of hundred years and if you find a single immigrant amongst your ancesters I invite you to leave the country or shut up and stop being a reactionary racist ejit.
This country is strong because it has an amazingly diverse background, not in spite of it. We are a nation of mongrels, and should be very proud of it. Not all waves of immigration are all good in the first generation, but a hundred years later the outlook is often very different. You are becoming the pawn of rightwing, rable-rousing, low brow newspapers if you believe the problems britain has today are at the door of some people from chechnya etc with enough get up and go to find their way across the world to here. Start with the scroungers being supported by our DSS who are from this country.
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Trace your own family tree back a couple of hundred years and if you find a single immigrant amongst your ancesters I invite you to leave the country or shut up and stop being a reactionary racist ejit.
This country is strong because it has an amazingly diverse background, not in spite of it. We are a nation of mongrels, and should be very proud of it. Not all waves of immigration are all good in the first generation, but a hundred years later the outlook is often very different. You are becoming the pawn of rightwing, rable-rousing, low brow newspapers if you believe the problems britain has today are at the door of some people from chechnya etc with enough get up and go to find their way across the world to here. Start with the scroungers being supported by our DSS who are from this country.
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There is no implied racism in talking about tribes - in all the ME countries there are many different tribes and they make the task of cohesive government (elected or unelected) more difficult.
Referring to Mohammed in giving an example of a pilot from Pakistan, Iran or Saudi is no more racist than talking about "young Harvey" referring to an American pilot.
As for the enemy within, I agree it is a major security problem but don't use air force money to solve it - the need for an effective air force does not vanish in the face of the terrorist threat.
People who make the mistake of weakening the armed forces for political gain and who think that the next conflict is going to be like the last are the biggest risk to our security.
Referring to Mohammed in giving an example of a pilot from Pakistan, Iran or Saudi is no more racist than talking about "young Harvey" referring to an American pilot.
As for the enemy within, I agree it is a major security problem but don't use air force money to solve it - the need for an effective air force does not vanish in the face of the terrorist threat.
People who make the mistake of weakening the armed forces for political gain and who think that the next conflict is going to be like the last are the biggest risk to our security.
Navaleye,
I don’t think economic migrants have anything to do with it! The very fundamental reasons that Islamic extremists feel so aggressive towards the west has to be examined and somehow dealt with, this is not a threat you can face down and defeat with a conventional military response. For those members of our indigenous population who feel sympathy towards Islamic fundamentalism and support or carry out acts of extremism, there is the law and it can and is used against them.
The fact that the UK is such a multi cultural society has to be a massive positive in our favour in meeting this challenge, quite apart from the benefits it has brought us as a nation.
I don’t think economic migrants have anything to do with it! The very fundamental reasons that Islamic extremists feel so aggressive towards the west has to be examined and somehow dealt with, this is not a threat you can face down and defeat with a conventional military response. For those members of our indigenous population who feel sympathy towards Islamic fundamentalism and support or carry out acts of extremism, there is the law and it can and is used against them.
The fact that the UK is such a multi cultural society has to be a massive positive in our favour in meeting this challenge, quite apart from the benefits it has brought us as a nation.
Suspicion breeds confidence
Tourist, What I said was not racist, Just that this country is full and we are making it far too easy for people with hostile intent to enter. Why are people from the former Yuogoslavia still here? The war has been over for years. They need to contribute to their own societies far more than they need to to ours.
Pr00ne: I think we largely agree. I think we do benefit from having a multi cultural society in much the same way as America does, but there are limits.
Pr00ne: I think we largely agree. I think we do benefit from having a multi cultural society in much the same way as America does, but there are limits.
