Chip Bag Help Request
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The person at St M is the wonderful tailoress who works out of the Supply Sqn. Don't have the number handy but just look on the Intranet at work under the St M homepage and then the telephone directory. Or just get the operator to help. The quality of her work is excellent so make the most of it before she gets mothballed along with the rest of the place.
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Tried to post this earlier, but server down?
I have managed to track down the details of the tailor and tailoress at St Mawgan and hope the Moderators won't mind me sharing them here:
According to the Clothing Stores Supervisor, they are Don and Sylv (Tippett?), and are contactable on (01637) 857331.
They should be back in work from tomorrow (30 Mar 05).
I HAVE SPOKEN TO THEM THIS MORNING (1 APR 05), AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY TOO BUSY SEWING ON ROYAL AIR FORCE PATCHES AND MEDALS TO MAKE HATS. I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY MAKE THEM AS A GAP FILLER. THEY ASK THAT PEOPLE WAIT A MONTH OR SO BEFORE ASKING AGAIN, AS THEY ALREADY HAVE SOME PEOPLE WAITING.
I guess in the interests of fairness, anyone else with suggestions (eg Kinloss tailor) should post here.
Thanks again for all your help.
STH
I have managed to track down the details of the tailor and tailoress at St Mawgan and hope the Moderators won't mind me sharing them here:
According to the Clothing Stores Supervisor, they are Don and Sylv (Tippett?), and are contactable on (01637) 857331.
They should be back in work from tomorrow (30 Mar 05).
I HAVE SPOKEN TO THEM THIS MORNING (1 APR 05), AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY TOO BUSY SEWING ON ROYAL AIR FORCE PATCHES AND MEDALS TO MAKE HATS. I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY MAKE THEM AS A GAP FILLER. THEY ASK THAT PEOPLE WAIT A MONTH OR SO BEFORE ASKING AGAIN, AS THEY ALREADY HAVE SOME PEOPLE WAITING.
I guess in the interests of fairness, anyone else with suggestions (eg Kinloss tailor) should post here.
Thanks again for all your help.
STH
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Seem to remember getting mine years ago from the tailor at STM, it was arranged through a crew mate who later transferred to the Kiwi AF, not sure if he was directly linked to the tailors though.
Only problem with said personalized hat is that it still says Sgt Y_G, Raf XXXloss. Never mind, had my moneys worth, and it is much more comfortable that the beret/SD option.
Y_G
Only problem with said personalized hat is that it still says Sgt Y_G, Raf XXXloss. Never mind, had my moneys worth, and it is much more comfortable that the beret/SD option.
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I have spoken to the St Mawgan Tailors this morning, and they are currently too busy (sewing on Royal Air Force patches and medals).
They make hats as a gap filler/side line. They ask that people wait a month or so before asking again as they already have some people waiting.
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They make hats as a gap filler/side line. They ask that people wait a month or so before asking again as they already have some people waiting.
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Why on earth do people insist on a padded, red lined chip hat? The hat weighs nothing and perches on top of the head, in addition the lining increases the size of the thing when squeezing into a flying suit pocket. Definetly not required. is this the precursor to a new MTV programme 'Pimp my service headress'???
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Some of us are devoid of, or lacking in, nature's own 'head covering' and find these warmer and more comfortable. As I wear mine often, and have to pay for it out of my own pocket, I don't see why I shouldn't have one that is comfortable ... if that's alright with you Dried Plum? The red-lined ones to which you refer are apparently what E C Snaith provide 'off-the-shelf'.
I do not possess a flying overall - though your point is well made. Don't the buttons and badges on a chip bag present a FOD hazard?
As for different colours, simply a means to distinguish between one's own and the other hats, and discourage 'borrowers'.
What is 'M T V' ? I can't find any reference to it in the JSP101!
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I do not possess a flying overall - though your point is well made. Don't the buttons and badges on a chip bag present a FOD hazard?
As for different colours, simply a means to distinguish between one's own and the other hats, and discourage 'borrowers'.
What is 'M T V' ? I can't find any reference to it in the JSP101!
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Apologies, I suppose a warmer variety is acceptable for use with thinning servicemen. In answer to your question there is no FOD threat unless you try to fly with your hat on - it' quite safe in an enclosed pocket! To avoid getting it mixed up with others how about writing your name in large letters in tippex? Oh and MTV is Music Television as seen on sky tv.
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ps The tailor in Akrotiri makes them but they look pretty bad.
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ps The tailor in Akrotiri makes them but they look pretty bad.
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Yes, I got one about then, and still have, at £23, and said, are you sure?
Smaller badge though!
I checked a month later, they were £32 + VAT and the badge was extra. Should have bought ten and put them on e-bay!
Yes, I got one about then, and still have, at £23, and said, are you sure?
Smaller badge though!
I checked a month later, they were £32 + VAT and the badge was extra. Should have bought ten and put them on e-bay!
Reference the Gieves chip bag, a mate has one. It's very thick, but I don't think it looks as good on as my crumpled old unlined one.
More importantly, while the badge is very shiny, on his Gieves one the eagle looks the wrong way... on my peak and chip bag he's got his beak over to his left, on the Gieves one it's off to his right
More importantly, while the badge is very shiny, on his Gieves one the eagle looks the wrong way... on my peak and chip bag he's got his beak over to his left, on the Gieves one it's off to his right
"I reckon that the quality of the SD hats you buy from stores is cr@p - they make you look as though you have just climbed off a Russian submarine."
This is true - but pull them down at the front and they're very useful for hiding behind if you ever need to do an Axminster Shuffle.... Allegedly!
A chap I once knew held at the MoD-box back when the awful forage hat 'c**t caps' were just about to be approved and went to some meeting about the things. In came various tailors with various ideas; the best was just like the Yank one and could be rolled up and stuffed into a flying suit pocket or hidden underneath normal blues doubled over....
But then the abortion with buttons and gilded duck appeared - as did the version for AirWheels with blue piping and gaudy little badge.
Guess which 'they' approved?
SD cap with cabbage kit? Why not? Berets are for the lower orders, Frank Spencer and French onion sellers. I last wore one in 1973. If an RAF Officer has to stoop to the level of wearing dung eaters' cabbage kit, he can at least retain some dignity by wearing a proper RAF Officer's SD cap.
Much to the annoyance of the Bwigadier, my boss at Base Aerea Gringo in the Islas Malvinas refused to wear either cabbage kit or a beret - so we always wore flying suits and SD caps. It demonstrated that neither of us was Wupert of the Wedgiment from the umpty-umpth Queen's Own Chinless Pwancers or some other dung eating mob but were officers of the Fuerza Aerea Malvinas!
This is true - but pull them down at the front and they're very useful for hiding behind if you ever need to do an Axminster Shuffle.... Allegedly!
A chap I once knew held at the MoD-box back when the awful forage hat 'c**t caps' were just about to be approved and went to some meeting about the things. In came various tailors with various ideas; the best was just like the Yank one and could be rolled up and stuffed into a flying suit pocket or hidden underneath normal blues doubled over....
But then the abortion with buttons and gilded duck appeared - as did the version for AirWheels with blue piping and gaudy little badge.
Guess which 'they' approved?
SD cap with cabbage kit? Why not? Berets are for the lower orders, Frank Spencer and French onion sellers. I last wore one in 1973. If an RAF Officer has to stoop to the level of wearing dung eaters' cabbage kit, he can at least retain some dignity by wearing a proper RAF Officer's SD cap.
Much to the annoyance of the Bwigadier, my boss at Base Aerea Gringo in the Islas Malvinas refused to wear either cabbage kit or a beret - so we always wore flying suits and SD caps. It demonstrated that neither of us was Wupert of the Wedgiment from the umpty-umpth Queen's Own Chinless Pwancers or some other dung eating mob but were officers of the Fuerza Aerea Malvinas!
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Actually us pond-life from the Mountains of Islas Malvinas always wore caps CW (AKA Dilac) when visiting Base Aerea Gringo to avoid having to salute commissioned members of “The Queen's Own Queens” or whatever the RIC was at the time. As BEags points out, berets for the real lower orders - AAC note.
Never understood saluting in corridors either - hey ho - such is jointery
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Sir Top Hat. You are correct. The Cap IS A FOD HAZARD!. But no-one in the organisation wants to admit it!! Get rid of the stupid looking '30s iconic metal badges and pips (what ever those bits on the front are...). Do we have to wait for a hull loss to discover that the uniform of the '30s is inappropriate for the RAF of the '80s.?
Looking forward to the RAF realising that the 80s are coming soon; in order to prepare for the '90s....because - well that will be the time to prepare for the new millenium. and we don't want to miss that.
Looking forward to the RAF realising that the 80s are coming soon; in order to prepare for the '90s....because - well that will be the time to prepare for the new millenium. and we don't want to miss that.
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I think you'll find it's an Albatross, and it looks aft, like the shoulder flashes on the OR's No1.
The reason it looks left is probably a Christian protocol.
Most church lecturns have a carving (eagle or albatross) looking left
Allegedly, Christ did so on the Cross, when he looked left at Barabbas
Any ideas?
I think you'll find it's an Albatross, and it looks aft, like the shoulder flashes on the OR's No1.
The reason it looks left is probably a Christian protocol.
Most church lecturns have a carving (eagle or albatross) looking left
Allegedly, Christ did so on the Cross, when he looked left at Barabbas
Any ideas?
Apologies; I thought the albatross connection was there somewhere, but wasn't sure where. Our wings are swift wings, right?
Anyway, the Gieves bird is peering right. Perhaps it's some sort of anti-religious thing?
Anyway, the Gieves bird is peering right. Perhaps it's some sort of anti-religious thing?
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"I reckon that the quality of the SD hats you buy from stores is cr@p - they make you look as though you have just climbed off a Russian submarine."
They look much better once the sprung steel ring is removed from inside the lining on the cap periphery.
Allows the sides to droop(!), and stops one looking like General Ourumov.
They look much better once the sprung steel ring is removed from inside the lining on the cap periphery.
Allows the sides to droop(!), and stops one looking like General Ourumov.
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The badge is definitely an Eagle. The RAF Website mentions the following (which could account for the albatross confusion):
'The original designer of the Royal Air Force badge is not known, but it has been suggested that he was a tailor at Gieves Ltd (Tailors) and the bird he drew was an albatross. At an Air Council meeting in December 1922, decreed the badge as worn on the head dress which did not include a garter and buckle but just the crown and eagle with circlet was to be used at all times. In January 1923, the new badge was submitted to the College of Arms for registration, the covering letter stating the design received the approval of the King simultaneously with other details of the Royal Air Force uniform.'
'The original designer of the Royal Air Force badge is not known, but it has been suggested that he was a tailor at Gieves Ltd (Tailors) and the bird he drew was an albatross. At an Air Council meeting in December 1922, decreed the badge as worn on the head dress which did not include a garter and buckle but just the crown and eagle with circlet was to be used at all times. In January 1923, the new badge was submitted to the College of Arms for registration, the covering letter stating the design received the approval of the King simultaneously with other details of the Royal Air Force uniform.'
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Shame about the Tailoress at Stm not being able to help. She made mine some years ago, and because she sewed my name in too, its never been stolen, unlike all the others. Its worth waiting if you want a good one, they are genuinely nice people.
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A little more info on the eagle vs albatross argument
http://www.airforce.ca/index.php3?page=news#news_item_6
http://www.airforce.ca/index.php3?page=news#news_item_6
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With the news that St Mawgan is not going to have a Supply Section (nor anything else) for much longer, perhaps those of you who still want a tw*t-hat should bell Don and Sylv soon.
No doubt they could do with a bit on top of their pension.
Narrow-minded local councillors? Undoubtedly.
Novel? Not in Kernow.
No doubt they could do with a bit on top of their pension.
Narrow-minded local councillors? Undoubtedly.
Novel? Not in Kernow.