At Last!
er. Just when I wanted to go 'home'. St Mawgan airfield mothballed wef late 2006 for up to 5 years pending decosions on future use. - BBC News
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From: An airfield cunningly close the Thames
Jeez, I knew those jets were heavy on engineering, but 160 guys for one jet!!??!!?? 
However, the jobs going at Brize are because the VC10 2nd line engineering is being moved to St Athan, so where that morphed into 'Brize is closing' I don't know. Possibly a few civvies out of a job, but mainly RAF involved, and there's plenty of need for spare engineers around the bazaars!
However, the jobs going at Brize are because the VC10 2nd line engineering is being moved to St Athan, so where that morphed into 'Brize is closing' I don't know. Possibly a few civvies out of a job, but mainly RAF involved, and there's plenty of need for spare engineers around the bazaars!
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From: South of the Fens again!
From one of the many Beeb articles about this:
...could leave the RAF overstretched?! Anyone want to break the bad news to Gerald that the bandwagon rolled away empty some time ago, so there's little point trying to jump on at this stage!
Conservative defence spokesman Gerald Howarth said the job losses could leave the RAF overstretched. He said: "The public are becoming accustomed to this mantra from this government of 'modernisation and efficiency' - words it uses to mask what invariably amounts to cuts and overstretch."
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From: Swindonshire
opso,
To be fair, I rather think that it's the Beeb who need this pointing out to them.
Howarth's comments about terminology masking cuts and overstretch suggest that he's in no doubt. The BBC, however, chose to inject a note of qualification/ scepticism/'balance' by putting 'could' rather than 'would'.
Although the Conservatives' spending plans for defence can be queried (what are they exactly, and where is the hinted-at cash coming from?), it's only dear old Buff who 'refuses to recognise' that there's such a thing as overstretch.
Bunter Soames has been on about overstretch for some time, and he's not only referring to his waistband....
To be fair, I rather think that it's the Beeb who need this pointing out to them.
Howarth's comments about terminology masking cuts and overstretch suggest that he's in no doubt. The BBC, however, chose to inject a note of qualification/ scepticism/'balance' by putting 'could' rather than 'would'.
Although the Conservatives' spending plans for defence can be queried (what are they exactly, and where is the hinted-at cash coming from?), it's only dear old Buff who 'refuses to recognise' that there's such a thing as overstretch.
Bunter Soames has been on about overstretch for some time, and he's not only referring to his waistband....
160 Job Losses at Leuchars
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So are the 180 jobs to go at ISK a result of the already known demise of 206, or is something else going?
(I accept that the remaining Sqns are to grow in size (allegedly) but wondered if losing one of 4 Sqns had resulted in a cutback amongst the blunt end.
I'll get me coat!
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(I accept that the remaining Sqns are to grow in size (allegedly) but wondered if losing one of 4 Sqns had resulted in a cutback amongst the blunt end.
I'll get me coat!
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From: UK
Conservative defence spokesman Gerald Howarth said the job losses could leave the RAF overstretched
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From: Well North of London
The job losses are logistics/engineering related according to the MOD website. See here:
http://news.mod.uk/news/press/news_h...wsItem_id=3146
Accouncement on basing for JCA (replacement for Harrier) here:
http://www.news.mod.uk/news_headline...wsItem_id=3147
D4R
http://news.mod.uk/news/press/news_h...wsItem_id=3146
Accouncement on basing for JCA (replacement for Harrier) here:
http://www.news.mod.uk/news_headline...wsItem_id=3147
D4R
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The Link seems to back up Totalwar's comment.
It seems that by closing StM will mean losing 175 military jobs and 40 Civilian jobs. That can't possibly be true though. Surely there are more that 175 servicemen at StM and there just has to be more than 40 Civilians. If those figures are a true reflection and IF StM was being run by just over 200 people then it clearly was a scandalous waste of money....
whats worse is the fact that with only 175 service men the place was run by a Group captain !!!!!....Good god. Anything else the RAF can waste money on?????
Now, Ive got a question for serving RAF Officers. Would you (as a cost cutting measure) relinquish your rank to the next one down in order to save money? I.E. If you were an Air Commodore and you believed your job could be done by a Group Captain would you put your hand up and relinquish your rank?
This is a serious question as I have heard a rumour that a certain Naval Officer has done just that.
It seems that by closing StM will mean losing 175 military jobs and 40 Civilian jobs. That can't possibly be true though. Surely there are more that 175 servicemen at StM and there just has to be more than 40 Civilians. If those figures are a true reflection and IF StM was being run by just over 200 people then it clearly was a scandalous waste of money....
whats worse is the fact that with only 175 service men the place was run by a Group captain !!!!!....Good god. Anything else the RAF can waste money on?????
Now, Ive got a question for serving RAF Officers. Would you (as a cost cutting measure) relinquish your rank to the next one down in order to save money? I.E. If you were an Air Commodore and you believed your job could be done by a Group Captain would you put your hand up and relinquish your rank?
This is a serious question as I have heard a rumour that a certain Naval Officer has done just that.
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