"Tactical Assault" Movie on BBC1
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"Tactical Assault" Movie on BBC1
If anyone is interested, there is an 'interesting' movie on BBC1 right now called "Tactical Assault". Storyline and acting is awful, but it appears to have been shot on a Hungarian AF base with Hungarian Mig 29s and Mil 8s masquerading as Nato (American!) aircraft and with Israeli F16s in some of the flying shots!
Its very clever the way the Mig29 keeps metamorphosing into an F16....!!!
Its very clever the way the Mig29 keeps metamorphosing into an F16....!!!
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Flying Anorak..
you beat me to it.
Mig 29s, Mi-8s as NATO aircraft being controlled by a NATO E-3 Sentry (they got that bit right atleast)
Footage of an F-16 taking off on escort of Mi-8s with 1 AIS pod and 1 Sidewinder.
Then the next footage was an Israeli F-16 taking off with two sidwinders.
As he took off he rammed the throttle forward which looked like he was going to break it. Then went skyward.
At this point i refused to watch anymore as i will sit there going over to myself (out loud) how many mistakes/silly footage there is in the film.
you beat me to it.
Mig 29s, Mi-8s as NATO aircraft being controlled by a NATO E-3 Sentry (they got that bit right atleast)
Footage of an F-16 taking off on escort of Mi-8s with 1 AIS pod and 1 Sidewinder.
Then the next footage was an Israeli F-16 taking off with two sidwinders.
As he took off he rammed the throttle forward which looked like he was going to break it. Then went skyward.
At this point i refused to watch anymore as i will sit there going over to myself (out loud) how many mistakes/silly footage there is in the film.
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It got even worse and culminated in the two rivals battling it out on the ground with a T80 (I think!) and some form of RPG.
Question is though, this obviously had high level Hungarian AF support...how do they sell such crap to the powers that be and what do they think when they see the dross they produce from the opportunities they were given.....
Question is though, this obviously had high level Hungarian AF support...how do they sell such crap to the powers that be and what do they think when they see the dross they produce from the opportunities they were given.....
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But Hungary is in NATO, so not too far from the truth. So are Bulgaria, Slovakia, Czech rep, Romania, Latvia, Lithuania - so plenty of Migs , Mils and Antonovs operated by NATO!! Very believable apart from the Israeli F16s, F4Es, Kfirs, Fatger Hauer as a senior USAF officer with hair he could trip over, senior totty looking like they know what they're talking about (
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It was obviously so interesting that you spent most of the time on PPrune. Now I cannot believe that you would have torn yourself away from the TV if you were watching 'Topgun'. Although, these days Kelly McG is looking somewhat tired.
It was obviously so interesting that you spent most of the time on PPrune. Now I cannot believe that you would have torn yourself away from the TV if you were watching 'Topgun'. Although, these days Kelly McG is looking somewhat tired.
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But Hungary is in NATO, so not too far from the truth. So are Bulgaria, Slovakia, Czech rep, Romania, Latvia, Lithuania - so plenty of Migs , Mils and Antonovs operated by NATO!!
Apart from the characters having "US AIR FORCE" on their t-shirts and the Mi-8s etc being flown by American pilots.
"Might as well be Migs masquerading as F16's for all the recognition ability the spams have.
See today's Times."
US troops get training to avoid friendly-fire attacks on British
BY LAURA PEEK AND MICHAEL EVANS, DEFENCE EDITOR
AMERICAN soldiers in Iraq are being given “anti-fratricide” training to reduce the number of friendly fire attacks against British and other coalition troops, The Times has learnt. Thirty-two “blue-on-blue” attacks on British and other coalition vehicles have been logged in the past twelve months in southern Iraq, Britain’s area of responsibility.
The training was revealed as Washington and Rome announced a joint inquiry into the killing last week of an Italian secret agent when US troops opened fire on the car in which he was accompanying a freed hostage to Baghdad airport.
The inquiry was announced by General George Casey, commander of multinational forces in Iraq, after Gianfranco Fini, the Italian Foreign Minister, had highlighted differences between the American and Italian versions of the incident.
Nicola Calipari, an experienced hostage negotiator, was killed as he protected Giuliana Sgrena, a journalist, who had been held for a month.
On the same day, a 30-year-old Bulgarian machine gunner was shot and killed in a second friendly fire incident, for which US forces were also blamed.
The vast majority of the 32 reported incidents involved American troops opening fire at night-time against suspected insurgents who turned out to be friendly forces, on or near the main route through southern Iraq used by US convoys.
Military officials in Basra, where the British-controlled Multinational Division (Southeast) is based, said that the “vehicle blue-on-blue incidents” in the period from February last year had resulted in ten minor injuries. “There have been no fatalities,” one said.
The officials declined to spell out the injuries received or whether they were all British soldiers, but they confirmed that most of the “firing nationalities” were American. A small number of incidents involved Romanian and Bulgarian troops opening fire.
US commanders were so worried that their men were shooting at the British because they failed to recognise the Union Jack or other distinguishing military markings that, in an unprecedented move, they asked the British Army to supply vehicles, men and flags to teach their soldiers what their allies looked like.
It is understood that the British supplied several “snatch” armoured Land Rovers, the most common vehicle used by British troops on patrol and senior non-commissioned officers, with Union Jacks, to instruct the Americans.
This was in addition to a detailed presentation already provided by the British for all incoming US troops, which outlines what a British soldier looks like, what type of vehicle he drives and what other coalition troops in southern Iraq drive around in.
When asked by The Times about the special anti-fratricide training, which was requested in January, a spokesman for US Army Forces Command at Fort McPherson in Atlanta, Georgia, said: “It is understandable we are doing this. We all want to reduce the number of friendly fire incidents. Checkpoints are very dangerous places. It has come into the headlines with the Italian and Bulgarian, but there are more incidents that do not get publicity and probably do not end so badly.”
British troops have been given warning against approaching American convoys because of the risk of being shot at. They are ordered to slow down to a snail’s pace as they pull alongside a convoy. They are told to display the Union Jack and shout that they are British. “The problem is that most of these incidents happen in the dark,” a military source said.
A British officer in Basra said: “The Americans can be pretty pumped-up. Sometimes they fire in broad daylight when we are travelling at two miles per hour, shouting that we are British out of the window and waving the Union Jack. If they shoot, our drill is to slam on the brakes and race in the opposite direction.”
See today's Times."
US troops get training to avoid friendly-fire attacks on British
BY LAURA PEEK AND MICHAEL EVANS, DEFENCE EDITOR
AMERICAN soldiers in Iraq are being given “anti-fratricide” training to reduce the number of friendly fire attacks against British and other coalition troops, The Times has learnt. Thirty-two “blue-on-blue” attacks on British and other coalition vehicles have been logged in the past twelve months in southern Iraq, Britain’s area of responsibility.
The training was revealed as Washington and Rome announced a joint inquiry into the killing last week of an Italian secret agent when US troops opened fire on the car in which he was accompanying a freed hostage to Baghdad airport.
The inquiry was announced by General George Casey, commander of multinational forces in Iraq, after Gianfranco Fini, the Italian Foreign Minister, had highlighted differences between the American and Italian versions of the incident.
Nicola Calipari, an experienced hostage negotiator, was killed as he protected Giuliana Sgrena, a journalist, who had been held for a month.
On the same day, a 30-year-old Bulgarian machine gunner was shot and killed in a second friendly fire incident, for which US forces were also blamed.
The vast majority of the 32 reported incidents involved American troops opening fire at night-time against suspected insurgents who turned out to be friendly forces, on or near the main route through southern Iraq used by US convoys.
Military officials in Basra, where the British-controlled Multinational Division (Southeast) is based, said that the “vehicle blue-on-blue incidents” in the period from February last year had resulted in ten minor injuries. “There have been no fatalities,” one said.
The officials declined to spell out the injuries received or whether they were all British soldiers, but they confirmed that most of the “firing nationalities” were American. A small number of incidents involved Romanian and Bulgarian troops opening fire.
US commanders were so worried that their men were shooting at the British because they failed to recognise the Union Jack or other distinguishing military markings that, in an unprecedented move, they asked the British Army to supply vehicles, men and flags to teach their soldiers what their allies looked like.
It is understood that the British supplied several “snatch” armoured Land Rovers, the most common vehicle used by British troops on patrol and senior non-commissioned officers, with Union Jacks, to instruct the Americans.
This was in addition to a detailed presentation already provided by the British for all incoming US troops, which outlines what a British soldier looks like, what type of vehicle he drives and what other coalition troops in southern Iraq drive around in.
When asked by The Times about the special anti-fratricide training, which was requested in January, a spokesman for US Army Forces Command at Fort McPherson in Atlanta, Georgia, said: “It is understandable we are doing this. We all want to reduce the number of friendly fire incidents. Checkpoints are very dangerous places. It has come into the headlines with the Italian and Bulgarian, but there are more incidents that do not get publicity and probably do not end so badly.”
British troops have been given warning against approaching American convoys because of the risk of being shot at. They are ordered to slow down to a snail’s pace as they pull alongside a convoy. They are told to display the Union Jack and shout that they are British. “The problem is that most of these incidents happen in the dark,” a military source said.
A British officer in Basra said: “The Americans can be pretty pumped-up. Sometimes they fire in broad daylight when we are travelling at two miles per hour, shouting that we are British out of the window and waving the Union Jack. If they shoot, our drill is to slam on the brakes and race in the opposite direction.”
