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Old 4th Mar 2005, 16:57
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Thumbs up Speed Cameras

Don't know if this affects many people but have a look at this site and you may get a clean licence back like I have (hopefully).....
http://www.safetycameraswiltshire.co.uk/
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Old 4th Mar 2005, 17:17
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Worked for Mrs CF. Points removed and £60 big ones back with a letter of apology!

Nice when it happens but I guess christmas is now over!!
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Old 4th Mar 2005, 19:10
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...so you got off on a technicality eh? Oh, jolly well done the lot of you. Enjoy the smug feeling while it lasts - Christmas you say?

I'm sure you'll cheerfully donate the umpty-quid you received back to some deserving charity, just to remind yourselves that you broke the law but got away with it, won't you? No, I didn't think so...
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Thud_and_Blunder,

You seem to be somewhat miffed here, rather mistakenly I think. This issue isn't about people flouting the law, it is about a speed camera being set up with no indication that a new speed limit had been set. I don't know anyone who was caught, but it caused a lot of grief.
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Safeware: You are being too kind. Thuddy obviously wants to throw his dosh to the reptilian Chief Constables who see motorists as a handy cash cow.

"Broke the law" - don't make me laugh...
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Thud-and-blunder

Think I will put my refund towards one of those GPS & laser 'safety' alerting devices.
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Mine would go on one of those new jamming devices (illegal..if you get caught) you can 'hide' under the bonnet....harder to find..you can get them from the States/Europe for a few hundred poooonds..yes I know it would be easier to stick to the limit...but in these days of being hit for 45 in a 40, why not? A pal of mine has one that allegedly merely confuses the gun and doesn't let the operator know that it's been jammed, unlike the one they tested on topgear.
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Old 5th Mar 2005, 08:48
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As an aside, do you think you will be able to claim compensation for increased insurance premiums, loss of earnings (if applicable) etc
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How about an even better Idea....I use something which didn't cost hundreds of pooooonds...it works every time and its legal......

Yep, I keep to the speed limit.

If you were to keep to the speed limit there would be no need for jammers, entrapment devices or the like...in fact, if everyone kept to the speed limit there would be no need for speed cameras.

So, top tip... keep inside the speed limit. It saves money AND it saves lifes.
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I don't see what the problem is.

I just drive ridiculously fast and keep a good look out.

Then, when I see a speed camera I just jump on the brakes and reduce speed to the ludicrously slow speed limit.

Especially near schools!

Or when it's foggy.


Or,

I sometimes drive at a speed somewhere near the legal speed limit., therfore reducing the likelihood of being prosecuted.



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Good man....

Between 1994 and 1998 an average of 468 people were killed or seriously injured each year in road traffic collisions in Wiltshire and Swindon.

Excess speed, or the inappropriate use of speed, is held to be a factor in 33% of all collisions.

Studies have shown that for every 1mph reduction in speed there is a 5% reduction in the number of collisions.

SLOW DOWN - SPEED KILLS
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Thunder and blunder

I suggest you know who it is on the forum you direct your comments too before making statements like "I suppose you will donate to charity......"

I have raised over £163000 pounds for nominated charities over an 18 year period.

Just exactly how much have you bothered to contribute! Get back in your box!
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Thud,

I once went above the speed limit decided by bureaucrats and have points to prove it. I only did it because it was safe to do so. The policeman who stopped me agreed it was a technical offence.

I do sometimes drive under the limit because it's not safe to drive at the posted speed limit. The bureacrats were wrong. But they didn't give me any credit.

I suggest cameras take pictures of us going slow due to our inadequate road system and give us money back on a monthly basis.

What about those roads with a MINIMUM speed limit. How can it be safe to drive fast?

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Old 5th Mar 2005, 11:01
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Does anyone know where I can buy a set of front mounted rockets to dispose of those who insist on hogging the middle & outside lanes of a near empty dual carriage way? Are lane hoggers ever pulled over & told to revisit the Highway Code?
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SLOW DOWN - SPEED KILLS
Speed does not kill anymore than spoons make you fat!

Speed merely reduces the time available to react to a given situation. It will, obviously, increase damage if you are in an accident. However, speed, in and of itself, does not kill.

Speed too fast for conditions is another thing entirely - failure to maintain control of your vehicle due to excessive speed does not mean speed kills, rather it means poor judgment.

Excess speed, or the inappropriate use of speed, is held to be a factor in 33% of all collisions.
Studies have shown that for every 1mph reduction in speed there is a 5% reduction in the number of collisions.
Statistics also show that 75% of traffic accidents occur within 25 miles of your home.

Figures lie and liars figure...statistics can be manipulated to serve any purpose whatsoever.

If you could demonstrate that speed, and speed alone, was the only causal factor in those 33% of accidents, you might have something there. However, any sensible person will tell you there are a multitude of factors involved in every accident. Speed is actually causal in very few. Where speed is ticked on the investigating official's sheet, more often than not, it was judgement that was in error...
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Sorry chaps, thought this was an AVIATION website. As an aviator one drinks too much, charms beautiful girls and of course drives too fast (when the motorway / dual road allows.)


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"Statistics also show that 75% of traffic accidents occur within 25 miles of your home."

That's it then, I'm going to move house!


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Old 5th Mar 2005, 11:54
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Waivar,

You're probably right about the choice of site - this will probably end up shunted off to JetBlast to join the other reiterations of the same old positions.

Shy,

Should've reined-in the GG's then, eh? Second beadwindow call in 3 days, methinks - you got summat against our company?!

CF,

Congratulations on knowing to within 3 sig figs how much you've donated. Why not make it 163060?

All,

You'll see from the sig where I live - if you want to see the anarchy and carnage which results from inappropriate use of speed and total disregard for motoring law, spend a day by Ring Road 6 or the Fahaheel Expressway. If that doesn't cure your heavy right foot then you're beyond help - or possibly a Kuwaiti on holiday. (There's a website here which apparently shows the results - we can't view it in-country because it upsets the Government to see their citizens foibles so publicly pilloried. Moderators - if the site is inappropriate please remove the link, thanks.)

Think it's a bad law? Well, you can either go for civil disobedience or you can get the law changed. There's an election coming up - if it's so important to you, find out what your candidates' positions are on speed limits and vote for the one that agrees with you. If you can find one; most are probably more concerned with boring stuff like health and education. You could even start your own political party and harness the energy of that massive groundswell of public approval for your cause... I wouldn't plan on hanging-on to your deposit, though.
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Between 1994 and 1998 an average of 468 people were killed or seriously injured each year in road traffic collisions in Wiltshire and Swindon

I assume that 1998 was when speed cameras were introduced to the Wiltshire area.

And since 1998 the figures are....

How much of a reduction have these camaeras made to the number of people injured or killed?
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Tell that to my paramedic son - 'speeding' kills!
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