Slightly Low Level Phantom..
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Slightly Low Level Phantom..
I saw this picture of a phantom at very low level, at, or close to the speed of sound.
I have some experience of very low level flight, Not in the fast stuff sadly.
My question is (with regard to the picture, low level and speed involved) what ticked boxes are required to fly this low at speed without becoming cat 1 in the process.
Naturally I assume that lack of wind, turbulence, and stable introvert character all play a major part of the decision making process.
Thanks in advance.
http://www.militaryaircraft.de/aviex...f4-phantom.jpg
I have some experience of very low level flight, Not in the fast stuff sadly.
My question is (with regard to the picture, low level and speed involved) what ticked boxes are required to fly this low at speed without becoming cat 1 in the process.
Naturally I assume that lack of wind, turbulence, and stable introvert character all play a major part of the decision making process.
Thanks in advance.
http://www.militaryaircraft.de/aviex...f4-phantom.jpg
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That's low level?
That's medium level stuff compared with what the F105 did in trials. Years ago the USAF experimented with trying to kill people - on the ground - with ultra low level flight.
They concluded that an F105 at 6 feet would do the trick. I think the question remained was it the bang or the Thud that killed them?
That's medium level stuff compared with what the F105 did in trials. Years ago the USAF experimented with trying to kill people - on the ground - with ultra low level flight.
They concluded that an F105 at 6 feet would do the trick. I think the question remained was it the bang or the Thud that killed them?
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Getting really low in an F-4 was difficult because of the rather bulbous nose and, in the UK versions, its extra sensitivity in pitch. The E-model was a lot easier because it had a narrower nose. I always maintained that we were going some if we found ourselves lower than a Buccaneer.
Laarbruch – early 70’s. ‘Sleepy’ Fred (if memory serves) was the Labour Def Min and had come with a party of VIPs to gaze in awe at the new Rapier in action. The batteries were sited by the taxiway adjacent to the tower, MEZCO was in Local and all awaited the airfield attack from the Buccs. I guess the only peeps who knew what would happen next were those directly involved with the attack planning! They appeared from everywhere (or so it seemed to me at the time). The tree line was pretty close to the manoeuvring area and the sneaky bu**ers used that to mask their approach. Needless to say, MEZCO and various execs had a purple fit as the Rapier guys got nowhere near achieving a lock! Only other almost comparable sights – ‘Fiery Cross’ and the last Lightning mass display at Wattisham with combined 111 and (Colts’) 65 in formation. Caused a bit of a rumpous when they flew at the crowd line (line abreast IIRC) and then pulled-up with burners lit.
Now that's what I call LL!
Ahhhhh happy days indeed!
Now that's what I call LL!
Ahhhhh happy days indeed!
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Getting really low in an F-4 was difficult because of the rather bulbous nose and, in the UK versions, its extra sensitivity in pitch. The E-model was a lot easier because it had a narrower nose. I always maintained that we were going some if we found ourselves lower than a Buccaneer.
Not if you're inverted it aint!
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Abingdon in the 60s I believe, Lightning departure at about .98 appeared stage left lower than the hangar roof. By the time I got my eyes caged and saw the hangar he'd gone. Then No 2 departed l o w e r
Would still love to see the infamous F4 beatup of the grad at Cranwell, from mid-80's?
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Champagne,
Check the pic link. Seems to be the evidence required to show that the Jag mates could indeed underfly....
http://braden.buzzword.com/military/LowFlyingAircraft
Check the pic link. Seems to be the evidence required to show that the Jag mates could indeed underfly....
http://braden.buzzword.com/military/LowFlyingAircraft
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Place - Honington - early 80s
Occasion - Buccs departing for the frozen north in deference to the (then) new Tornado
Situation - top of SHQ roof waiting for the 4 ship flypast.
They appeared behind the trees from the Ixworth direction, seemed to come around SHQ (two either side) and below the top storey and proceeded to thread themselves through the gaps between the hangars lower than the roof line. Then buggered off in the direction of Thetford.
Bloody marvellous
Anyone here in that formation?
Occasion - Buccs departing for the frozen north in deference to the (then) new Tornado
Situation - top of SHQ roof waiting for the 4 ship flypast.
They appeared behind the trees from the Ixworth direction, seemed to come around SHQ (two either side) and below the top storey and proceeded to thread themselves through the gaps between the hangars lower than the roof line. Then buggered off in the direction of Thetford.
Bloody marvellous
Anyone here in that formation?
Same place but in the 70's. Didn't see it myself (must have been off shift) but the story goes that a certain OCU mate took one of the Hunters through (between) the stadium lights on the ASP!
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Standing on the LSO platform on the USS Saratoga in 1977 or 78 and watched two Buccaneers from the Ark Royal come in below flight deck level (60ft). They rolled inverted over the ship and went back below flight deck level before rolling back upright!
Impressive!
Impressive!
Tomcat,
A few photos of Bucc low passes here. I foolishly "lent" the photo of one going under the angle to the pilot: 30 years later, still waiting to get it back
A few photos of Bucc low passes here. I foolishly "lent" the photo of one going under the angle to the pilot: 30 years later, still waiting to get it back
Who has the photograph of a B-52 passing by a US Aircraft carrier below deck height.....that probably is the cake taker! It was posted here some time in the past as I recall.
