New Police Tactics M4
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New Police Tactics M4
For all you chaps who might nudge the 70 MPH on the way to bases in WILTS/OXON but can spot the marked police cars in time, watch out.
The unmarked cars camouflage themselves by parking on the hard shoulder with hazard lights on and just look like an ordinary break down while using their rearward looking radar/laser to catch speeders.
Keep your eyes peeled!
The unmarked cars camouflage themselves by parking on the hard shoulder with hazard lights on and just look like an ordinary break down while using their rearward looking radar/laser to catch speeders.
Keep your eyes peeled!
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Er......just slightly illegal.
You can't stop on the hard shoulder except in an emergency. This applies to the Police as much as anyone else, unless they are attending to render assistance, or have just pulled over an offender.
...but that's not going to stop them doing it now, is it?
16B
You can't stop on the hard shoulder except in an emergency. This applies to the Police as much as anyone else, unless they are attending to render assistance, or have just pulled over an offender.
...but that's not going to stop them doing it now, is it?
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The unmarked cars camouflage themselves by parking on the hard shoulder with hazard lights on and just look like an ordinary break down while using their rearward looking radar/laser to catch speeders.
They must of ran out of those 'sidings' ...."For Police Vehicles Only" which tend to be most noticeable on the M5....
On the A361 near Tiverton, the police vehicle hides behind the hedge and the officer pokes his little rays out the hedge...then radios to another traffic vehicle waiting a mile up the road...!
Razor
...Or you could always leave a few minutes earlier, plan your journey, keep within the speed limit and then everyone would be happy, eh?
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What about the Kuwaiti solution to the speed cameras on the 30, 40 and 50 Highways and the sixth ring road ? ie 5 or 6 AK 47 rounds through the sensor lens.
BY the way, I'm there now and I've got a bottle or two of the Famous Grouse !!
What about the Kuwaiti solution to the speed cameras on the 30, 40 and 50 Highways and the sixth ring road ? ie 5 or 6 AK 47 rounds through the sensor lens.
BY the way, I'm there now and I've got a bottle or two of the Famous Grouse !!
Well, Thud, YOU and the rest of the sheep can obey an arbitrary speed limit designed yonks ago for cr@p cars without ABS - if you want to.
The rest of us who can think independently will try to find a way around the problem.
The rest of us who can think independently will try to find a way around the problem.
TR:
IMO, the speed limits are designed less for the super duper fast cars than the slow, dimwitted drivers - that's the bit which hasn't changed in years and is unable to adapt to the environment in which it finds itself.
Jetblast soon, anyone ?
IMO, the speed limits are designed less for the super duper fast cars than the slow, dimwitted drivers - that's the bit which hasn't changed in years and is unable to adapt to the environment in which it finds itself.
Jetblast soon, anyone ?
Just phone Plod and report an unattended vehicle on the hard shoulder which appears to contain 2 occupants behaving in a suspicious manner.....
Like Pinky and Perky in their unmarked Vauxhall many years ago who were cruising along the totally clear single carriageway section of the A40 between Eynsham and Oxford at 57 mph tucked into the left positively inviting people to overtake them. I spotted them (and the odd light panel in their rear window) and stayed back - but the bloke who couldn't be bothered and floored it as he overtook us both was immediately given the blues and pulled over. If that wasn't obvious entrapment, then what else was it?
Like Pinky and Perky in their unmarked Vauxhall many years ago who were cruising along the totally clear single carriageway section of the A40 between Eynsham and Oxford at 57 mph tucked into the left positively inviting people to overtake them. I spotted them (and the odd light panel in their rear window) and stayed back - but the bloke who couldn't be bothered and floored it as he overtook us both was immediately given the blues and pulled over. If that wasn't obvious entrapment, then what else was it?
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After getting busted a couple of years ago, (for doing 37 on a section of 30mph dual carriageway! 
), I decided to see what was available on the Internet. There is a vast amount of information available including directories of all the speed traps in the UK, copies of the Association of Chief Police Officers' guidelines for the use of all different types of equpiment and details of what type of eqipment is used, how it works and the limitations of them all. I'm pretty sure that most people aren't aware of the rules and regs that Plod is supposed to work under and just accept the facts as they are presented to them. Obviously, the best way to avoid being done is not to exceed the speed limit, but I was interested to see the following snippets...
1. ACPO guidelines specify that any equipment should only be used to corroborate an existing suspicion that a vehicle is exceeding the speed limit for the road/vehicle type - ie shouldn't be used to 'zap' every car that goes past until they find one that is speeding.
2. Most types of equipment need to be calibrated in the location that they are to be used at the start and end of a session and the detail recorded by the police officer - they need to drive a calibrated vehicle past the equipment and record the event in their note-book.
3. Some of the equipment is only supposed to be used as long as there is only one vehicle on the road to prevent them receiving returns from multiple vehicles.
Personally, I'd reccommend checking out some of these sites, because it's worth knowing both your rights and the guidelines for the police if you find yourself in this situation.
Alternatively, stay within the speed limit!!
), I decided to see what was available on the Internet. There is a vast amount of information available including directories of all the speed traps in the UK, copies of the Association of Chief Police Officers' guidelines for the use of all different types of equpiment and details of what type of eqipment is used, how it works and the limitations of them all. I'm pretty sure that most people aren't aware of the rules and regs that Plod is supposed to work under and just accept the facts as they are presented to them. Obviously, the best way to avoid being done is not to exceed the speed limit, but I was interested to see the following snippets...1. ACPO guidelines specify that any equipment should only be used to corroborate an existing suspicion that a vehicle is exceeding the speed limit for the road/vehicle type - ie shouldn't be used to 'zap' every car that goes past until they find one that is speeding.
2. Most types of equipment need to be calibrated in the location that they are to be used at the start and end of a session and the detail recorded by the police officer - they need to drive a calibrated vehicle past the equipment and record the event in their note-book.
3. Some of the equipment is only supposed to be used as long as there is only one vehicle on the road to prevent them receiving returns from multiple vehicles.
Personally, I'd reccommend checking out some of these sites, because it's worth knowing both your rights and the guidelines for the police if you find yourself in this situation.
Alternatively, stay within the speed limit!!
Of more concern on the M4 are the safety camera vans (white) which park on bridges and get everybody. They work this tactic all the way from Swansea to Hungerford to my knowledge.
....and off the end of the M4 towards Carmarthen (clear straight dual carriageway), there is one of those vans parked somewhere along that section nearly every day.
....and on the A34 just South of Oxford, on a bridge, nearly every day.
Spend the money on catching real villains, for pitys sake (I say that as a resident of a growing town that recently lost it's manned Police Station )
....and on the A34 just South of Oxford, on a bridge, nearly every day.
Spend the money on catching real villains, for pitys sake (I say that as a resident of a growing town that recently lost it's manned Police Station
)
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Report in the Telgraph yesterday showing that revenue has increased over four fold since 1997.Clear profit going into treasury coffers last year was £20 million...easy money..stealth tax?Figure it out yourselves.
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Travel the M4 regularly.
Does anyone actually do less than 70 mph between Chippers and Swindon?
I often sit at 70 on the inside lane and never need to overtake.
Noone cares about speed limits except when the Feds are there.
Does anyone actually do less than 70 mph between Chippers and Swindon?
I often sit at 70 on the inside lane and never need to overtake.
Noone cares about speed limits except when the Feds are there.
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Speed Kills. Therefore we should have none. Hard to get anywhere though.
However answer this: why 70 mph? Why not 80? Or 50? Why should I stick to this arbitary figure? Even worse, and arbitary figure that was made up on the spot when a typical car, such as a Ford Anglia, could manage 78 mph flat out, and typical handling and braking at the time were dreadful compared even to my cheap, 8-year-old car which has all-round disc brakes, good suspension and excellent tyres.
Crossbow, your post shows such bland, blind, ignorant conformity that I am no longer surprised you show such devotion to Nanny Toneeeeee.
Look into the issue. There are studies showing that the safest group of drivers on some dual carriageways are driving at 85 mph in good conditions. Therefore the "safety cameras" are fining the safest drivers. Others show that the reduction in road deaths, running a constant 5% per annum until the mid 1990s has gradually disappeared in line with the introduction and growth of automatic cameras and lies about speed's role in fatal accidents that politicians push out instead of doing something useful (it's so much easier) and you swallow wholesale and propogate.
However answer this: why 70 mph? Why not 80? Or 50? Why should I stick to this arbitary figure? Even worse, and arbitary figure that was made up on the spot when a typical car, such as a Ford Anglia, could manage 78 mph flat out, and typical handling and braking at the time were dreadful compared even to my cheap, 8-year-old car which has all-round disc brakes, good suspension and excellent tyres.
Crossbow, your post shows such bland, blind, ignorant conformity that I am no longer surprised you show such devotion to Nanny Toneeeeee.
Look into the issue. There are studies showing that the safest group of drivers on some dual carriageways are driving at 85 mph in good conditions. Therefore the "safety cameras" are fining the safest drivers. Others show that the reduction in road deaths, running a constant 5% per annum until the mid 1990s has gradually disappeared in line with the introduction and growth of automatic cameras and lies about speed's role in fatal accidents that politicians push out instead of doing something useful (it's so much easier) and you swallow wholesale and propogate.
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Crossbow & Maple
How's about a joining of both your very valid points.
Speed kills, very very much so. But I do feel this applies to all areas other than motorways.
These days, most folk I know happily sit on the M roads at 80-90. Sure there are times when a limit lower than 70 is imposed: road works, bad weather etc, and these are imposed for strong safety reasons.
My arguement is for higher limits on the motorways (85), maintainence of the dual carriageway 70, and all other limits, which have been imposed for a damned good reason, to be left in place and enforced.
We all know that the £60 fine is not the end of the financial pentalty (insurance worms stealing more cash). If we subsequently break the law we should pay for it.
The cash however should go directly to worthwhile projects. The problem with the "stealth tax" is that it we do not see any positive results from the fines collected. Where do they go? If the forces who collect them benefit directly, this encourages unscrupulous collection to swell the coffers.
I cannot see an adequate solution to the above problems, apart from raising the motorway limit, and us drivers sticking to the other limits... no giving the miserable buggers an excuse.
Turbine
How's about a joining of both your very valid points.
Speed kills, very very much so. But I do feel this applies to all areas other than motorways.
These days, most folk I know happily sit on the M roads at 80-90. Sure there are times when a limit lower than 70 is imposed: road works, bad weather etc, and these are imposed for strong safety reasons.
My arguement is for higher limits on the motorways (85), maintainence of the dual carriageway 70, and all other limits, which have been imposed for a damned good reason, to be left in place and enforced.
We all know that the £60 fine is not the end of the financial pentalty (insurance worms stealing more cash). If we subsequently break the law we should pay for it.
The cash however should go directly to worthwhile projects. The problem with the "stealth tax" is that it we do not see any positive results from the fines collected. Where do they go? If the forces who collect them benefit directly, this encourages unscrupulous collection to swell the coffers.
I cannot see an adequate solution to the above problems, apart from raising the motorway limit, and us drivers sticking to the other limits... no giving the miserable buggers an excuse.
Turbine