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I thought in this PC world that we now live in, that having an affair was not seen as being the crime that it used to. Being old fashioned I thought the 24 hr posting was the way ahead, but I have seen some cases recently where the words 'infringement of civil liberties' were used. Any thoughts. I feel sorry for the guy if he is being picked out.
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Having an affair has always been and still remains a punishable offence. Times have changed out here but the AFA 1955 remains extant.
Had it been an affair with any one except one of his execs I supspect that the matter would have gone unnoticed.
I feel for all the guys on 8 Sqn and wish them well, the Sqn was recovering quite nicely from the terrible years of the previous management structure!! They don't need or deserve this!
Having an affair has always been and still remains a punishable offence. Times have changed out here but the AFA 1955 remains extant.
Had it been an affair with any one except one of his execs I supspect that the matter would have gone unnoticed.
I feel for all the guys on 8 Sqn and wish them well, the Sqn was recovering quite nicely from the terrible years of the previous management structure!! They don't need or deserve this!
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FWIW I think that people should learn to control the one eyed trouser snake and leave others peoples other halves well alone. It does take two to tango, and an affair is a symptom of a bad marriage rather then the cause, but I am afraid that I have no sympathy whatsoever, and I hope there is an incoming book being thrown at a rapid rate of knots.
.....and when it results in aircrews that cannot fly together!
`nuff said:
Sun Comments:
By JOHN KAY
Chief Reporter
AN RAF spy plane boss was kicked out of his command post yesterday over an illicit fling with one of his deputies.
Wing Commander (Named in the paper), 43, head of top secret 8 Squadron, was grounded and banned from flying spy-in-the-sky missions.
Squadron Leader (Named in the paper), 37, was also suspended from RAF Waddington, Lincs.
At least it wasnt another bloke
.....and when it results in aircrews that cannot fly together!
`nuff said:
Sun Comments:
By JOHN KAY
Chief Reporter
AN RAF spy plane boss was kicked out of his command post yesterday over an illicit fling with one of his deputies.
Wing Commander (Named in the paper), 43, head of top secret 8 Squadron, was grounded and banned from flying spy-in-the-sky missions.
Squadron Leader (Named in the paper), 37, was also suspended from RAF Waddington, Lincs.
At least it wasnt another bloke
Spot 4, it won't please those who find adultery acceptable, but I would agree with you.
"Stitch that!" - well, IIRC that stopped one particular adulterer.
And as for lounge lizards who spend their time sniffing around lonely wives whose hubbies are away on detachment....
"Stitch that!" - well, IIRC that stopped one particular adulterer.
And as for lounge lizards who spend their time sniffing around lonely wives whose hubbies are away on detachment....
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"Tragically, 8 Sqn lost a fine leader"
An interesting assessment of someone who has been screwing a fellow officer's wife, let alone someone in his chain of command. I can't agree that the behaviour is appropriate of someone in such a position.
An interesting assessment of someone who has been screwing a fellow officer's wife, let alone someone in his chain of command. I can't agree that the behaviour is appropriate of someone in such a position.
I feel for all the guys on 8 Sqn and wish them well, the Sqn was recovering quite nicely from the terrible years of the previous management structure!! They don't need or deserve this!
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Double standards in the "occifer core" yet again 
If he porks the local bank manager/butcher/candlestick makers wife, or has a lifetime of "down route action" he's percieved as a good old boy
Lay claim to a fellow "royal's" better half and it is seen as the most heinous and despicable act a man can stoop to
How "PC" and "EO" is that
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
If he porks the local bank manager/butcher/candlestick makers wife, or has a lifetime of "down route action" he's percieved as a good old boy
Lay claim to a fellow "royal's" better half and it is seen as the most heinous and despicable act a man can stoop to
How "PC" and "EO" is that
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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This is unaccepetable behaviour and disciplinary action is wholly appropriate but it should not feature on the front page of the paedophiles' favourite tabloid, let alone in any news paper. Dirty linen should not be washed in public as there are others affected. No further names or sinnuendo please!
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No I don't care to elaborate and if you were truly there in 2001 then you are just trying to wind me up! You Tw*t!!
Both of these people are decent, professional individuals who I know personally and have worked with over the years. Yes they should have both known better but hey here are some facts!!
1. All Hu-mans make mistakes
2. All leaders are Hu-mans
What truly p*8s*es me off is that this has gotten into the public domain. That means that some one at Waddo or whitehall has leaked it to the press. The previous management structures of both 8 AND 23 have broken rules far worse than this, so it somewhat reinforces my own view that The Air Force Mandarins are quite happy for ANY rules to be broken providing that the job gets done. Break a moral rule however and heaven and earth get moved to sort it out!
I wish both OC8 and his exec well and hope they, their families and 8 Sqn recover from all of this. Sad, messy and unnecessary, part of the continuing 8 Sqn curse perhaps??
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TG
No I don't care to elaborate and if you were truly there in 2001 then you are just trying to wind me up! You Tw*t!!
Both of these people are decent, professional individuals who I know personally and have worked with over the years. Yes they should have both known better but hey here are some facts!!
1. All Hu-mans make mistakes
2. All leaders are Hu-mans
What truly p*8s*es me off is that this has gotten into the public domain. That means that some one at Waddo or whitehall has leaked it to the press. The previous management structures of both 8 AND 23 have broken rules far worse than this, so it somewhat reinforces my own view that The Air Force Mandarins are quite happy for ANY rules to be broken providing that the job gets done. Break a moral rule however and heaven and earth get moved to sort it out!
I wish both OC8 and his exec well and hope they, their families and 8 Sqn recover from all of this. Sad, messy and unnecessary, part of the continuing 8 Sqn curse perhaps??
Regards
TG
Last edited by The Gorilla; 7th Jan 2005 at 20:23.
ABIW, I have to agree with you on this one.
JTG, as OC 8 is funded from the public purse, under FOI I am sure Joe Public want to know that he is capable of doing his job properly, and without the possibility of fudging the chain of command.
The Gorilla, if "The previous management structures of both 8 AND 23 have broken rules far worse than this.. ", then maybe it is about time the public were informed on how the forces are being managed. Or as ABIW intimates, as its the Occifers that are involved we had all better be quiet and it will all go away, and we will keep it all under wraps.
JTG, as OC 8 is funded from the public purse, under FOI I am sure Joe Public want to know that he is capable of doing his job properly, and without the possibility of fudging the chain of command.
The Gorilla, if "The previous management structures of both 8 AND 23 have broken rules far worse than this.. ", then maybe it is about time the public were informed on how the forces are being managed. Or as ABIW intimates, as its the Occifers that are involved we had all better be quiet and it will all go away, and we will keep it all under wraps.
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Depends which bit of 2001!! I was of course referring to the latter part and if you know who I am then you know the Tw*t was indeed in jest!! It wasn't T*at!!
ZH785
Yeah right mate!! Unfortunately it is to late to keep it under wraps!!
TG
Depends which bit of 2001!! I was of course referring to the latter part and if you know who I am then you know the Tw*t was indeed in jest!! It wasn't T*at!!
ZH785
Yeah right mate!! Unfortunately it is to late to keep it under wraps!!
TG
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