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Lets not get into a pi$$ing contest over trust and judgement.
The business of placing an aircraft U/S is very much a matter of team work. There should be no objection to anyone rasing a work order on a jet. The important point to be addressed by the technicians, the ops staff and the aircrew is whether or not that particular work order prevents the jet from flying. We have the means to defer faults. Perhaps the amount of paperwork associated with a deferrment tends to make it difficult to implement. A system might be unserviceable (ie not available for use), but the aircraft can still be serviceable.
The business of placing an aircraft U/S is very much a matter of team work. There should be no objection to anyone rasing a work order on a jet. The important point to be addressed by the technicians, the ops staff and the aircrew is whether or not that particular work order prevents the jet from flying. We have the means to defer faults. Perhaps the amount of paperwork associated with a deferrment tends to make it difficult to implement. A system might be unserviceable (ie not available for use), but the aircraft can still be serviceable.
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A bit self contradictory I think!
My post wasn't about trust , though I can see why anyone may have thought so. Especially my last sentence which was tounge firmly in cheek.
It was about when pressure is brought to bear on people to "sign it up" or variations on that theme. That's when it becomes dangerous, it is unfortunatly becoming more and more commonplace and if the engineering staff at Lyneham are subject to that kind of pressure we should all be concerned.
The rest of your post I agree with totally, indeed as my handle might suggest I have a very strong working relationship with the form F703
The business of placing an aircraft U/S is very much a matter of team work. There should be no objection to anyone rasing a work order on a jet.
My post wasn't about trust , though I can see why anyone may have thought so. Especially my last sentence which was tounge firmly in cheek.
It was about when pressure is brought to bear on people to "sign it up" or variations on that theme. That's when it becomes dangerous, it is unfortunatly becoming more and more commonplace and if the engineering staff at Lyneham are subject to that kind of pressure we should all be concerned.
The rest of your post I agree with totally, indeed as my handle might suggest I have a very strong working relationship with the form F703
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If you provide sufficient manpower and resources to provide a realistic chance of achieving the task then most of the problems of pressure, trust and aircraft limitions will go away. OK there will always be situations when problems can't be fixed before the next flight but this should be the exception rather that the norm.
The current situation at Lyneham appears to be one of chaos. Many people don't know who they work for or what they are expected to achieve. The reorganisation appears to have been poorly thought out and implemented, the important people (those involved at thhe workface) were not consulted and it has now become a face saving exercise. The RAF is not a democracy but common sense must prevail. Good leadership involves getting the troops on your side from the start
The present situation = Poor morale, unnecessary pressure, lack of direction = POTENTIAL FLIGHT SAFETY NIGHTMARE
The current situation at Lyneham appears to be one of chaos. Many people don't know who they work for or what they are expected to achieve. The reorganisation appears to have been poorly thought out and implemented, the important people (those involved at thhe workface) were not consulted and it has now become a face saving exercise. The RAF is not a democracy but common sense must prevail. Good leadership involves getting the troops on your side from the start
The present situation = Poor morale, unnecessary pressure, lack of direction = POTENTIAL FLIGHT SAFETY NIGHTMARE
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So, OBE eh? Well done ma'am, it'll make you proud every time you look at it to remember how you earned it.
Any truth to the other rumour doing the rounds - that she's not being posted until she's sorted out the mess she's created? (I don't know whether to be happy or pi$$ed if it's true though)
Any truth to the other rumour doing the rounds - that she's not being posted until she's sorted out the mess she's created? (I don't know whether to be happy or pi$$ed if it's true though)
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No, you're rid of her in August, which is when she was due out from the beginning. Don't know where she's going, as long as it's not here I don't care. That said, we're being farmed out to Stations anyway, which fortunately will be the last place you'll find her now she's got her OC Eng tick.
I have just found out who was responsible for the disgraceful OBE. Care to post, sir, and explain why? I know you have an account.
Regards
Desert Bat (a very very bitter man)
I have just found out who was responsible for the disgraceful OBE. Care to post, sir, and explain why? I know you have an account.
Regards
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Here here DB!
I too know who was responsible.
Sir, your comments/reasons would be valuable here!
There is too much modern management speak coming out of the engineering empire at Lyneham. How about some good, old-fashioned LEADERSHIP?
It just goes to show that an MBA in the wring hands is a very, very dangerous thing!
I too know who was responsible.
Sir, your comments/reasons would be valuable here!
There is too much modern management speak coming out of the engineering empire at Lyneham. How about some good, old-fashioned LEADERSHIP?
It just goes to show that an MBA in the wring hands is a very, very dangerous thing!
MBA - Master of B*gger All, the single degree most resposible for the mismanagement of the Armed Forces.
Methinks the proposer of the OBE dare not answer his critics in open forum, or evem behind closed doors.
Recommendation should have been for the firing squad...
Methinks the proposer of the OBE dare not answer his critics in open forum, or evem behind closed doors.
Recommendation should have been for the firing squad...
(Still, it wouldn't be the first time!)
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If you need proof, look at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/h...n_11_06_05.pdf
We're having a little competition in the office. What does OBE stand for? Answers on a postcard please, best entry wins a knighthood.
Let me start you off:
Other B#gger's Efforts (everyone knows that one)
Oblivious to Basic Engineering
Oblivious to Basically Everything
We're having a little competition in the office. What does OBE stand for? Answers on a postcard please, best entry wins a knighthood.
Let me start you off:
Other B#gger's Efforts (everyone knows that one)
Oblivious to Basic Engineering
Oblivious to Basically Everything
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Hi Gang;
A trip got scrubbed yesterday after there was no spare frame. Task went to the TriMotor in the end..(PS..Thanks for helping us out guys!!).
The situation is that if there is no task, then aircraft are not worked or prepped meaning that you have to have NO crew-in snags all day for a successful programme. Open to correction...
Edited for Red Wine Speeling
J Bloke...
A trip got scrubbed yesterday after there was no spare frame. Task went to the TriMotor in the end..(PS..Thanks for helping us out guys!!).
The situation is that if there is no task, then aircraft are not worked or prepped meaning that you have to have NO crew-in snags all day for a successful programme. Open to correction...
Edited for Red Wine Speeling
J Bloke...
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From the Defence Intranet Turd Polishing Dept (Unclassified)
Logistics Transformation Success Story - The Lyneham White Van Men!
At RAF Lyneham, the Hercules C130 repair and maintenance teams are speeding up the turnaround times for their aircraft.
When an aircraft is returning from a mission, it radios ahead its unserviceabilities and snags. To speed up Hercules repairs, the Mobile Issue Centre (MIC) truck, formerly known as the Fast Action Response Team (FART) wagon, was procured from MT, saving it from the scrap yard, and kitted out by the Hercules K 'Lean' Team.
The Lean Team is dedicated to reducing waste, cutting bureaucracy and adding value to everyday practices. Because the squadron is forewarned of the aircraft's faults, when the aircraft lands, the MIC truck is waiting at the flight line with the right technicians, spares and equipment on board to repair the aircraft.
The maintenance team arrives on the flight line and commences a hot-debrief with the aircrew before the aircraft is shut down. This eliminates the time that was spent de-briefing and collecting all the relevant equipment and spares before any repairs could take place.
As OC 24 Sqn *** ****** said, "It's a welcome sight to have the team ready and waiting to fix the aircraft as we taxi in. Working hand in hand with the rectification team on the flight line is something we do on deployment and it's a welcome move at home too". Lyneham have plans to develop the MIC van idea and put a fleet of MIC trailers on the flight-lines.
Another Lean Team has also looked at the process of re-roleing C130 aircraft between missions. C130 fuselage load-bays are designed to be reconfigured for each sortie to be able to carry different cargo, for instance, troops, freight or tanks. When an aircraft lands, the load-bay often needs to be reconfigured for the next flight at very short notice. A multi-disciplinary team of airframe and movements personnel has been put together and provided with a van equipped with the correct tools and common re-role equipment to make the process more efficient. The Re-role Team works with the Air Load Master to ensure that re-roleing is done efficiently and correctly.
SAC *** ***** of the C130J Lean Team put the process in perspective. "It might sound simple, but by applying lean to the re-role process we hope to avoid having over £1M worth of re-role equipment unaccounted for, whilst at the same time improving aircraft availability and operational effectiveness". "Re-role spanner time won't be reduced, but the chaff around it will".
Harmless Bull**** or Dangerous Propaganda?
I could pick holes in this rubbish, sentence by sentence.
But my spirit is broken
Logistics Transformation Success Story - The Lyneham White Van Men!
At RAF Lyneham, the Hercules C130 repair and maintenance teams are speeding up the turnaround times for their aircraft.
When an aircraft is returning from a mission, it radios ahead its unserviceabilities and snags. To speed up Hercules repairs, the Mobile Issue Centre (MIC) truck, formerly known as the Fast Action Response Team (FART) wagon, was procured from MT, saving it from the scrap yard, and kitted out by the Hercules K 'Lean' Team.
The Lean Team is dedicated to reducing waste, cutting bureaucracy and adding value to everyday practices. Because the squadron is forewarned of the aircraft's faults, when the aircraft lands, the MIC truck is waiting at the flight line with the right technicians, spares and equipment on board to repair the aircraft.
The maintenance team arrives on the flight line and commences a hot-debrief with the aircrew before the aircraft is shut down. This eliminates the time that was spent de-briefing and collecting all the relevant equipment and spares before any repairs could take place.
As OC 24 Sqn *** ****** said, "It's a welcome sight to have the team ready and waiting to fix the aircraft as we taxi in. Working hand in hand with the rectification team on the flight line is something we do on deployment and it's a welcome move at home too". Lyneham have plans to develop the MIC van idea and put a fleet of MIC trailers on the flight-lines.
Another Lean Team has also looked at the process of re-roleing C130 aircraft between missions. C130 fuselage load-bays are designed to be reconfigured for each sortie to be able to carry different cargo, for instance, troops, freight or tanks. When an aircraft lands, the load-bay often needs to be reconfigured for the next flight at very short notice. A multi-disciplinary team of airframe and movements personnel has been put together and provided with a van equipped with the correct tools and common re-role equipment to make the process more efficient. The Re-role Team works with the Air Load Master to ensure that re-roleing is done efficiently and correctly.
SAC *** ***** of the C130J Lean Team put the process in perspective. "It might sound simple, but by applying lean to the re-role process we hope to avoid having over £1M worth of re-role equipment unaccounted for, whilst at the same time improving aircraft availability and operational effectiveness". "Re-role spanner time won't be reduced, but the chaff around it will".
Harmless Bull**** or Dangerous Propaganda?
I could pick holes in this rubbish, sentence by sentence.
But my spirit is broken
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Absolute horse turds if you ask me. I mean I haven't seen movers taking part in a role change at Lyneham, only down route if it is somewhere nice. I don't know if you ever had the chance or pleasure of the white knuckle ride that is/was the MIC wagon. The brakes didn't work properly for starters. As for having the spares ready to fix the aeroplane when it landed, at times rocking horse droppings are more readily available.