Smoking ban in the Mess?
But if everyone who smokes stops, will we be able to afford petrol and beer when Herr Chancellor raises the taxes on these items to replace the lost revenue from tobacco.
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"But if everyone who smokes stops, will we be able to afford petrol and beer when Herr Chancellor raises the taxes on these items to replace the lost revenue from tobacco."
Yep, it's called the Baccy Dividend. Less people needing triple by-pass operations, chemotherapy, intensive care = NHS cost savings.
Yep, it's called the Baccy Dividend. Less people needing triple by-pass operations, chemotherapy, intensive care = NHS cost savings.
One would consider that the estimated 1.5 billion per annum the NHS spends treating smoking related diseases to be a drop in the ocean compared to the £8.1 billion the treasury receives in tobacco tax revenue.
The smokers own the NHS!!
The smokers own the NHS!!
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Dirty Sanchez - "Someone being drunk in the bar does not pose a threat to someone else in the bar"
True, unless you lock someone in his room because he's drunk - who then decides he wants more, and climbs out of his window, forgetting he's on the 1st floor and lands on someone leaving the bar - as happened at ISK a few of years ago! Fortunately, both were non-smokers, so no real harm was done.
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True, unless you lock someone in his room because he's drunk - who then decides he wants more, and climbs out of his window, forgetting he's on the 1st floor and lands on someone leaving the bar - as happened at ISK a few of years ago! Fortunately, both were non-smokers, so no real harm was done.
Love many, Trust a few, Always paddle your own canoe
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Interesting views raised, but the main point intended was that it is the 'nanny state' that is introducing the change - not the collective will of the general public. No one can realistically argue for smoking in public places - the dangers are too well documented. However, those that are now smugly agreeing with the intended smoking ban will get a nasty shock when this government' attention turns to something that adversely effects them (eg. alcohol intake, diet, contact sports, sex (if different from the previous), country pursuits, competetive spirit at schools etc etc etc). As per my original post, this is just the start and do not fool yourselves otherwise - the government has merely selected the easiest target first.
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Why not make smoking illegal in this country all together then?? Because we smokers pay far too much tax for the Govt to manage without, that's why (Well actually I don't thanks to DF. In fact I save about £3.50 every pack I smoke). We need more support for the smoker in this world. I feel discriminated against. I'm off for a cigarette.
One is informed that approximately £3billion or revenue was lost in the tax year 2002/2003 due to importation of duty paid tobacco. I would be unable to say whether that includes duty free sales or not.
Of course, there is an additional revenue stream for the government from cigarettes thanks to VAT.
Of course, there is an additional revenue stream for the government from cigarettes thanks to VAT.
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Can't we just be segregated ? If I want to kill myself (albeit slowly and painfully), at my own expense regardless of who gets what money surely I should at least be permited to do it in relative comfort, i.e. holding a pint
Not enough $$$ ...
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Here's a quick Google for Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...e+Search&meta=
One quote:
ANYTHING that reduces my exposure to inhaling poison is a Good Thing. If you want to kill yourself, you are quite welcome to step outside and kill yourself in private. Please do not involve me in your self-abuse.
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http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...e+Search&meta=
One quote:
Quitting smoking is the only strategy that has so far been shown to reduce the rate of decline in lung function in patients with COPD.
Cheers,
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I'm a smoker. I haven't had a cigarette since 1983 but I'm still a smoker - I gave up once before but stupidly tried a ciggie after going three years without, so I have no illusions about what can happen as a result of a single drag on a fag. So I sympathise with all the other smokers. If they told me tomorrow that I had only six months to live, the first thing I'd do is buy a packet of B & H and a lighter.
Whatever happened to smoking rooms? Why should smokers have to go outside in the cold to indulge in their own particular bad habit? In Singapore they banned smoking in public places and at Changi airport they had a tiny sin-bin room for smokers to indulge, during transits between no-smoking flights. Then some enterprising businessman came up with the idea of a smokers-only bar. Now the smokers can have a beer or stronger while they indulge their habit in the company of fellow smokers and the enterprising entrepreneur is a millionaire - and lets face it, why the hell not?
Tolerance brothers, tolerance.
Whatever happened to smoking rooms? Why should smokers have to go outside in the cold to indulge in their own particular bad habit? In Singapore they banned smoking in public places and at Changi airport they had a tiny sin-bin room for smokers to indulge, during transits between no-smoking flights. Then some enterprising businessman came up with the idea of a smokers-only bar. Now the smokers can have a beer or stronger while they indulge their habit in the company of fellow smokers and the enterprising entrepreneur is a millionaire - and lets face it, why the hell not?
Tolerance brothers, tolerance.
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I don't care where the smokers decide to do their dirty deed and I respect their right to contract all forms of cancer. However, No smoking in enclosed public places/workplace means that I don't have to breathe in their dirty effluent.
Bout time I say! Now go stand outside the classroom and you can smoke away!
Bout time I say! Now go stand outside the classroom and you can smoke away!
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With pay as you dine all the mess bar staff will be provided by the catering company. Therefore smoking will be banned on health and safety grounds. However when bar prices will be competitve with local public house prices ( £2.50+ per pint) the mess bars will be empty anyway, so its irrelevant if smoking becomes banned to mess members.
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EGM at Kinloss last night voted for outright smoking ban in all public rooms with immediate effect- apart from dining in nights when is perfectly acceptable to puff on the old Havana!
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It's possible the Govt could ban shafting on the snooker table if you are playing billiards with 2 white balls!!
Transport is on the way, Your cheque is in the bank, I won't come in your ***** etc,
Love Many, Trust a few, Always paddle your own canoe!!
It's possible the Govt could ban shafting on the snooker table if you are playing billiards with 2 white balls!!
Transport is on the way, Your cheque is in the bank, I won't come in your ***** etc,
Love Many, Trust a few, Always paddle your own canoe!!