The Next General Election
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The Next General Election
I know we are not allowed to express a political opinion but we are allowed to vote. I was just wondering how members would vote at the next General Election.
Never have, can't say I will....the T****ers always get in. I can't see any real choice....there's no real viable party that will look after the interests of the Nation above their own..is there?
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I'll vote for whoever promises to balance whats left of the Military. One Group Captain per Group one Wg Cdr per Wing one Sqn Ldr per Squadron and so on. Then we might have some troops at the workface rather than lots of Senior Officers in Ivory Towers fighting for their turn to sit at a desk rather than being on paid gardening leave.
Ah well I always fancied politics, problem is I find it dificult to lie.
Ah well I always fancied politics, problem is I find it dificult to lie.
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Any member of the UK services who votes for Bliar needs to be hanged or shot...his performance at the Labour conference just confirms how power truly corrupts!!
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I see that Jack Straw is no longer wearing his "Rose coloured spectacles"
Apart from his stumbly interviews on R4 Today and other programmes - is this a clue?
This man was an a*se as Home Secretary and is even worse as Foreign
Good fag to Bliar though!
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Apart from his stumbly interviews on R4 Today and other programmes - is this a clue?
This man was an a*se as Home Secretary and is even worse as Foreign
Good fag to Bliar though!
Love many, trust a few, always paddle your own canoe!
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The most effective anti-Blair party gets my votes. That appears to be the Lib Dems, who are stealing Labour votes (all those pre-97 Tory votes) quite effectively.
If Blair squanders much of his majority - and Hartlepool today indicates he is likely to - his party will discard him more quickly than a redundant serviceman!
So ABB - Anyone but Blair! It is likely that a more balanced Parliament will form after the next election, as the Tory vote is unlikely to suffer as Labour's will.
Oh, as an officer I find Blair's leadership, integrity and moral fibre of the lowest order. If I had a commissioned colleague that displayed the same lamentable lack of regard for the truth I would wish to see them out of the service as speedily as possible. Am I allowed to say that? Who cares - too late now!
If Blair squanders much of his majority - and Hartlepool today indicates he is likely to - his party will discard him more quickly than a redundant serviceman!
So ABB - Anyone but Blair! It is likely that a more balanced Parliament will form after the next election, as the Tory vote is unlikely to suffer as Labour's will.
Oh, as an officer I find Blair's leadership, integrity and moral fibre of the lowest order. If I had a commissioned colleague that displayed the same lamentable lack of regard for the truth I would wish to see them out of the service as speedily as possible. Am I allowed to say that? Who cares - too late now!
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The next general election will be just after my 18th, so this'll be my first chance to vote!
Nice to see Bliar is sending my mates and I letters around our birthdays reminding us to vote, trying to sway the impressionable youth of today?
Unfortunately I don't back any party (and i'm rather well educated in politics compared to some my age), however i'll be voting for Conservatives on the basis of (i) more money for the MoD and (ii) tuition fees.
Ok so not the most important aspects on a political agenda but still, they're the ones that are affecting me over the next 4 or so years!
Nice to see Bliar is sending my mates and I letters around our birthdays reminding us to vote, trying to sway the impressionable youth of today?
Unfortunately I don't back any party (and i'm rather well educated in politics compared to some my age), however i'll be voting for Conservatives on the basis of (i) more money for the MoD and (ii) tuition fees.
Ok so not the most important aspects on a political agenda but still, they're the ones that are affecting me over the next 4 or so years!
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"Unfortunately I don't back any party (and i'm rather well educated in politics compared to some my age), however i'll be voting for Conservatives on the basis of (i) more money for the MoD and (ii) tuition fees."
So well educated that you appear to have ommited to pick up on Tory plans, they will CUT all public spending including defence and reduce the university intake to the small elitist band they have always felt comfortable with.
There is NO political party that treats defence as a priority as it is not a priority of the electorate.
Boris Johnson would be fun as PM, the best most incompetent host ever on "Have I got news for you"
Only problem would be the political has beens he would take with him!
"Unfortunately I don't back any party (and i'm rather well educated in politics compared to some my age), however i'll be voting for Conservatives on the basis of (i) more money for the MoD and (ii) tuition fees."
So well educated that you appear to have ommited to pick up on Tory plans, they will CUT all public spending including defence and reduce the university intake to the small elitist band they have always felt comfortable with.
There is NO political party that treats defence as a priority as it is not a priority of the electorate.
Boris Johnson would be fun as PM, the best most incompetent host ever on "Have I got news for you"
Only problem would be the political has beens he would take with him!
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cut public spending yes, however not by comparison to labour's plans. Recent plans for an extra £2.7bil is much more positive in my opinion than any other offer on the table.
As for making University elitist, I thought that was the idea? For the best students to go on... lose the cosmopolitan subjects, lose the vocational cr*p. You can do a degree in anything from underwater knitting to television studies nowadays... the reason exams are appearing 'easier' to the older generation is because there are more students doing more easy subjects, therefore upping the pass rate. Unfortunately a BTEC in Public Services, Media Studies and Home Ec. makes you elligible for a degree.
Also note, 'compared to others my age'. You should be amazed theres 17 year old's discussing politics, especially one from Norfolk!
jindabyne
If you can persuade that bunch, im with you
cut public spending yes, however not by comparison to labour's plans. Recent plans for an extra £2.7bil is much more positive in my opinion than any other offer on the table.
As for making University elitist, I thought that was the idea? For the best students to go on... lose the cosmopolitan subjects, lose the vocational cr*p. You can do a degree in anything from underwater knitting to television studies nowadays... the reason exams are appearing 'easier' to the older generation is because there are more students doing more easy subjects, therefore upping the pass rate. Unfortunately a BTEC in Public Services, Media Studies and Home Ec. makes you elligible for a degree.
Also note, 'compared to others my age'. You should be amazed theres 17 year old's discussing politics, especially one from Norfolk!
jindabyne
If you can persuade that bunch, im with you
joe2812,
Er, maths not your strong point then? How on earth can the £2.7B over three years that the Tories are now claiming be better than the £3.7B announced by the Gov't? My maths makes that just about One billion pounds less!
Look at what else the Tory party has stated it will do to defence;
"Merge Logistics and Procurement"
"Privatise or outsource 12 Defence agencies"
Nicholas Soames stated " The Tories had been 'too wet' and 'too timid' in their attempt to reform the armed forces during their last Gov't and that his planned re-organisation will " be painful and difficult" and " the armed forces may not agree with the changes"
Too timid and too wet! From the party that introduced contractorisation on a huge scale, sold off the MQ estate to a private consortium and invented the DHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heaven help the serving members of the forces if this man gets his way!
Er, maths not your strong point then? How on earth can the £2.7B over three years that the Tories are now claiming be better than the £3.7B announced by the Gov't? My maths makes that just about One billion pounds less!
Look at what else the Tory party has stated it will do to defence;
"Merge Logistics and Procurement"
"Privatise or outsource 12 Defence agencies"
Nicholas Soames stated " The Tories had been 'too wet' and 'too timid' in their attempt to reform the armed forces during their last Gov't and that his planned re-organisation will " be painful and difficult" and " the armed forces may not agree with the changes"
Too timid and too wet! From the party that introduced contractorisation on a huge scale, sold off the MQ estate to a private consortium and invented the DHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heaven help the serving members of the forces if this man gets his way!
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Based on replys so far my general inpression is that the majority of servinging members will not vote for anybody. That must be a sign of general apathy.
So we now live in a country where our political masters can send us (volenteers - not conscripted) to fight wars that we may agree or not agree with. But if the rest of the country dont really give a toss (providing it does not affect the price of petrol or houses) then wot hope have we got.
One other thing I would love to keep this tread going untill the next General Election. So token effort from everbody, a simple reply each day and several months will soon pass.
And I predict this thread will be quite interesting when the build up to the election starts.
So we now live in a country where our political masters can send us (volenteers - not conscripted) to fight wars that we may agree or not agree with. But if the rest of the country dont really give a toss (providing it does not affect the price of petrol or houses) then wot hope have we got.
One other thing I would love to keep this tread going untill the next General Election. So token effort from everbody, a simple reply each day and several months will soon pass.
And I predict this thread will be quite interesting when the build up to the election starts.
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There is in my view only one party worth fully supporting and that is the UKIP. On equipment they have made a clear pledge to buy 'off the shelf' best equipment, rather than the expensive home grown version of equipment. Plus they are the ONLY party whom will restore democray to the uk.
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As Joe stated he is just coming up to the legal age to vote so maybe a less patronising and posibly more balanced response would be more effective
all spelling misatkes are"df" alcohol induced
As Joe stated he is just coming up to the legal age to vote so maybe a less patronising and posibly more balanced response would be more effective
all spelling misatkes are"df" alcohol induced