Tutor Grounding

[Grounded So Stack]

Why fly anyway?

EESDL,
How do you have time for Softball - is that approved PDT?

With the investigation/NDT looking to take us into August, does anyone have any bright ideas of time-filling genius?

How about:

Take the students to a beach, add alcohol and watch as a latter-day 'Lord of the Flies' ensues

Stack to the local
Stack to someone else's local
Deploy the female studes undercover in Iraq to ensure the dysfunctionality of terrorist cells (or is that BioWar?)

Anybody, Bueller, Anyone?

GSS

[airborne_artist]

With the investigation/NDT looking to take us into August, does anyone have any bright ideas of time-filling genius?

Come and paint outside of house (only 2 nm SW of EGUB)

[mbga9pgf]

How about getting the kids trained up for FRESCO II duty during their summer recess?

[6foottanker]

Plenty of flying and beer at EGVN if any (uhummm female) UAS studes want to drop by!!! I know quite a few have already, but where do you go after 6.00?

[Skylark4]

We are running a sweepstake at work on the date of the first flight of one of our own aircraft (as opposed to a Cranwell or factory aircraft). I have selected Sept 6, 2004, partly as that is my 43rd. wedding anniversary but it is also a reasonable guess in the circumstances.

Mike W

[airborne_artist]

Perhaps Ppruners can join in on a virtual basis.

I'll choose 19 September - it's the no.3 daughter's birthday

[Dr Falken]

I choose April Fool's Day.

Now where have I heard that date before?

[A and C]

A number of RAF stations have flying clubs , perhaps the MOD might think of renting the club aircraft for UAS students to use .

This could cover some parts of the training and not make the UAS summer camp a total waste of time from the flying point of view untill the Grobs get back on line.

[Dendmar]

....and so the Firefly goes on; the airspace round Cranwell is really quite free. Perhaps they should have bought a few!.....

[BEagle]

Certainly, Mr A&C, Sir. We'd be delighted to rent out our a/c and instructors to you. £150 per hour plus £50 per hour for the Flight Instructor. And we'll even teach you medium level navigation....

[allan907]

Buy them all an air ticket and send them over here. PPL instruction only $150 per hour = £58 per hour!

.....and we have damned near perfect weather

.....and virtually no air traffic

.....and an Outback Adventure

.....and reasonable 'totty'

downside......Cessna 172 and 150 Aerobat.

[pr00ne]

Seeing as all RAF EFT is now delivered by the UAS system, is there another bottleneck building in the Flying Training system again?

[airborne_artist]

I was an RN stude at Leeming in the late 70s - Bulldog serviceability plus lousy weather plus plenty of us (no defence cuts then..) meant that courses were late.

RN had some Chipmunks of its own, so it suggested to the Airships (who owned the airframes, the site, the groundcrew and 50% of the instructors) that the RN could take some of the studes and the course manual and finish the job on time.

Never have you seen so much happen so fast in the land of the Light Blue....

Perhap the RN should dig out the Chipmunks again (probably in the cupboard under the stairs at Yeovilton), and offer to take on the task....

[EESDL]

Any UAS been 'stood down' yet?

[airborne_artist]

Seeing as all RAF EFT is now delivered by the UAS system, is there another bottleneck building in the Flying Training system again?

But that will shorten the holdovers later on in the sausage machine, and so improve their stats?.........

[Slow-Rider]

"Any UAS been 'stood down' yet?"

Yep - 3 weeks.

[G-KEST]

Sure says a lot for the Tutor if it can throw a blade and not have the engine fall off with the resulting imbalance. I reckon there are benefits in having lightweight propellor blades. These things should not happen however the intensive use by the RAF has been certain to show up snags. Just look at the number of occurrance reports on the Slingsby for instance. Still not entirely sorted but thats how we learn. Bet the folk in the Tutor needed their green grow bags to disguise the results - I would have done.........!!!!
Cheers,
Trapper 69
PS - Why on earth does the RAF not use 2,500 rpm as a pitch setting in the Tutor? At this rpm the engine is happy at full chat on the throttle and the noise and wear is far less. Can anyone enlighten me?

[PIElotMAN]

G-KEST

PS - Why on earth does the RAF not use 2,500 rpm as a pitch setting in the Tutor? At this rpm the engine is happy at full chat on the throttle and the noise and wear is far less. Can anyone enlighten me?

The RAF DOES use 2500 rpm except when climbing! The initial thread on this subject, entitled Crash/collision near Boscombe highlights more info on this issue.

Anyway, CAA have stopped NDT on fleet for now as it was not approved by them. They have got to manufacture some more NDT equipment specific for the job, which will take approx. 2 weeks!!

NDT may start in first week of August but no flying before August 9th (probably) and no full flying in short term!! 24 new hubs have been ordered and lead time on these is 4 weeks.

How long will this go on? Answers on a postcard please.

[teeteringhead]

Could we perhaps persuade the fire-fighter chappies to have their next strike now , so we could use the UAS lot on the next Fresco

[Grounded So Stack]

2500 vs. 2400RPM

Sir Pie-a-lot,
Not sure where you get your info from but the EFT world changed its SOP about 2 1/2 months ago. We now use 2400RPM "whenever possible" apart from the TO, climb & approach phases. This is in line with the Grob operating guidance and also reduces engine wear and tear - perhaps a bit late for certain component parts though?!?

G-KEST: Do you know something EFT & Grob don't?

EESDL: we're stacked too - fancy a beer?