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In a very desparate attempt to put this rather mundane post to bed; in answer to your original question Mr Beagle - "Do we get taught how to use the Dalton Computer at EFTS", then the answer is a resounding YES. However, as a UAS type, this came after completing my EFT on the mighty Dog and the plastic spastic (Tutor). So Yes, it was probably a little late as I haven' t the faintest idea where mine is now and I dont think this will matter in my coming flying career.
I agree with your belt and braces approach to flying; walking before running etc etc... however, as you have just stated, the Dalton is only really relevant at med lvl when going not very quicky in a low stress environment. Any other situation, I think it is as much use as tits on a fish.
I agree with your belt and braces approach to flying; walking before running etc etc... however, as you have just stated, the Dalton is only really relevant at med lvl when going not very quicky in a low stress environment. Any other situation, I think it is as much use as tits on a fish.
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I agree with you 100%!
But this afternoon I've got to work out some TAS values for a non-RAF AAR training application, given IAS, ISA dev and FL. Guess what I'll be using to get the answers.....
Which I guess is rather like tits on a mermaid...?? Useful now and again, but not that often!
But this afternoon I've got to work out some TAS values for a non-RAF AAR training application, given IAS, ISA dev and FL. Guess what I'll be using to get the answers.....
Which I guess is rather like tits on a mermaid...?? Useful now and again, but not that often!
Beags
Just to confirm that the basics are still taught by UASs - that is to plan, map study, fly and apply MDR techniques on the day. All EFT students do get taught the DC so there is no need to put electrons to e-mail
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However one thing you need to be aware of is that some of today's baby pilots do not even know which direction the sun rises in!! On a recent test ride I asked the student why he re-erected the well toppled compass whilst heading away from base rather than turning towards base and then re-erecting. "How could I do that when the compass was toppled?" No thought (or knowledge) of using the big glowing object in the sky and time as a basic compass!!
Just to confirm that the basics are still taught by UASs - that is to plan, map study, fly and apply MDR techniques on the day. All EFT students do get taught the DC so there is no need to put electrons to e-mail
. However one thing you need to be aware of is that some of today's baby pilots do not even know which direction the sun rises in!! On a recent test ride I asked the student why he re-erected the well toppled compass whilst heading away from base rather than turning towards base and then re-erecting. "How could I do that when the compass was toppled?" No thought (or knowledge) of using the big glowing object in the sky and time as a basic compass!!
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Sounds like their lOOkout is as sharp as ever, Roly old bean
"Left 10 o'clock low, range 81 million nautical, one sun. No threat"
I gather bits fell off one of Das Teutors dahn sahhf in a somewhat spectacular manner t'other day?
And it has a compass which topples? Presumably Herr Grob did at least give you a standby? Sounds like the pre-AHARS Hawk saga all over again!
"Left 10 o'clock low, range 81 million nautical, one sun. No threat"
I gather bits fell off one of Das Teutors dahn sahhf in a somewhat spectacular manner t'other day?
And it has a compass which topples? Presumably Herr Grob did at least give you a standby? Sounds like the pre-AHARS Hawk saga all over again!
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Beag's,
Not one to normally question your erudite posts but if you are still using a dalton comp despite all the tecno available today how can us mere mortals here ever take anything you comment on seriously in the future
Luddite
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Not one to normally question your erudite posts but if you are still using a dalton comp despite all the tecno available today how can us mere mortals here ever take anything you comment on seriously in the future
Luddite
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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Sorry - no time to answer as I've got to light the boiler in my horseless carriage before I set off to go flying today!
Techno isn't always best - remember how easy it once was to twiddle a knob labelled 'volume' on your TV/radio instead of faffing with software driven menus? And when 'off' switches actually turned things off?
Techno isn't always best - remember how easy it once was to twiddle a knob labelled 'volume' on your TV/radio instead of faffing with software driven menus? And when 'off' switches actually turned things off?
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Some newer readers of this thread may have missed Gedney's post:
Who's the fool - the person who checks the computer's calcs, or the one who believes all he sees in front of him?
Bet you'll be happy to see Gedney arrive with fuel to spare in his big whirly SAR bird when you are cold and wet!
As a SARboy I still find the 'Dalton Confuser' invaluable, both on the ground and in the air; every long-range job I go on you'll find me busy with my whizz-wheel. No amount of button pressing on the Sea King's CDNU gives you the same warm feeling as going back to basics to confirm that you have the fuel to get there, do the job and get back to a dry bit.
Bet you'll be happy to see Gedney arrive with fuel to spare in his big whirly SAR bird when you are cold and wet!
