Pilot Free IOT??
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Yeah WSOs ARE that good.
CURLS,
and if the WSOs were that good they wouldn't need the FCs and Air Tragicers to tell them to avoid the Newcastle zone 3 times before directing their nose gunner to fly straight through it regardless!!
and if the WSOs were that good they wouldn't need the FCs and Air Tragicers to tell them to avoid the Newcastle zone 3 times before directing their nose gunner to fly straight through it regardless!!
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I can now confirm this rumour is a load of rubbish as I have now found out I am going on Oct IOT - wahoo!
Good luck to the rest of you guys who are still waiting to hear.
Minstral
Good luck to the rest of you guys who are still waiting to hear.
Minstral
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Iy! Definatley lucky!
Official release of dates is meant to be mid June so hopefully you will hear then! Good luck mate - if you get Oct let me know.
Which UAS are you on?
Minstral
Iy! Definatley lucky!
Official release of dates is meant to be mid June so hopefully you will hear then! Good luck mate - if you get Oct let me know.
Which UAS are you on?
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There will have been a pilot-free IOT at some point - the cyclical nature of undermanning/overmanning is not new, and the cuts we have endured recently and are about to endure again will make this even more likely. Also, there are fewer holding jobs out there and even if there were, there are fewer bedspaces at most units.
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I posted this joke earlier!
"how can you tell if there is an RAF Pilot in the bar?"
"Dont worry, he'll come over and tell you!"
well my humble opinion is that you straight to IOT types should be MADE to do a bit of Burger flipping and learn the true value of the pound, and what its like to no to be a silver spoon chosen one! and dont give me any of your crap about "knowing that already" i'll believe it when i see it! hands up the wannabe Fighter Jockeys? be good to the Techies on the line! most are treated with contempt, but your lives are in their hands! the multi engine crews tend to be a lot nicer to the ground crew, not so up themselves. but generally all need a good reality check.
going straight from education to the RAF, officers and aimen alike, seems to give some people a false view of the world, i am constantly frustrated with officers and senior NCO's attitudes. When the cosy life in the RAF comes to an end, which it will eventually, most of them will come to earth with a real bump, or have heart attacks prematurely at the stress of not being in charge any more, and that people below you in age, or experience, can really know more that you and be right too! i concept that is vehemently diregarded in the Millitary, usually to their own detriment!
sorry if it sounds like a rant, but im trying to catch you young guys BEFORE the brainwashing accurs, so you might be wise to it, and become one of those extreamly rare gems that is a genuinly nice guy pilot/officer!
"how can you tell if there is an RAF Pilot in the bar?"
"Dont worry, he'll come over and tell you!"
well my humble opinion is that you straight to IOT types should be MADE to do a bit of Burger flipping and learn the true value of the pound, and what its like to no to be a silver spoon chosen one! and dont give me any of your crap about "knowing that already" i'll believe it when i see it! hands up the wannabe Fighter Jockeys? be good to the Techies on the line! most are treated with contempt, but your lives are in their hands! the multi engine crews tend to be a lot nicer to the ground crew, not so up themselves. but generally all need a good reality check.
going straight from education to the RAF, officers and aimen alike, seems to give some people a false view of the world, i am constantly frustrated with officers and senior NCO's attitudes. When the cosy life in the RAF comes to an end, which it will eventually, most of them will come to earth with a real bump, or have heart attacks prematurely at the stress of not being in charge any more, and that people below you in age, or experience, can really know more that you and be right too! i concept that is vehemently diregarded in the Millitary, usually to their own detriment!
sorry if it sounds like a rant, but im trying to catch you young guys BEFORE the brainwashing accurs, so you might be wise to it, and become one of those extreamly rare gems that is a genuinly nice guy pilot/officer!
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Well I've done my fair share of time sitting on a checkout in Sainsbury's and doing waitressing in nightmare venues being abused by Joe Public. So yes, fair enough, I am going in straight from education but it doesn't mean I don't know the value of treating people with respect.
You bracket all people going in from education unfairly. I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way. Not everyone is a snob who takes delight in looking down on people. Having said that I know a fair few people who do!
You bracket all people going in from education unfairly. I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way. Not everyone is a snob who takes delight in looking down on people. Having said that I know a fair few people who do!
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That's OK hanging around for weeks at a time 'unplaced' will get you used to the holds that you will be doing on your way through.
By the time you actually see another aircraft it will be thought controlled which means it won't be connected to aircrew. You will be kept for PR purposes only to lure people into service. You will be kept in a sealed compound where only other aircrew may go, with only the comfort of a snug fling suit to keep your ego from bursting.
By the time you actually see another aircraft it will be thought controlled which means it won't be connected to aircrew. You will be kept for PR purposes only to lure people into service. You will be kept in a sealed compound where only other aircrew may go, with only the comfort of a snug fling suit to keep your ego from bursting.
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Don't you just hate it when you try to be big and clever and make a typo that reduces it to comedy.
The reduction is across the board I'm afraid but more obvious in the aircrew world. If the rumours of reductions are to be accepted, if you are not on a flying Stn you will be in an HQ flying a desk or wearing a grey civil servant issue suit.
Eng, Admin and Logs are being reduced to single figure numbers of courses per year from around 25. Getting a job with RAF Plc will be increasingly difficult.
I wonder if promotion will slow down like it did for the ground trades in the 90's.
Oh how I long for the good old days of the Women's Auxilliary Balloon Corps when the training machine was bursting with bodies and you could get holding officers to do menial tasks about the Sqn.
The reduction is across the board I'm afraid but more obvious in the aircrew world. If the rumours of reductions are to be accepted, if you are not on a flying Stn you will be in an HQ flying a desk or wearing a grey civil servant issue suit.
Eng, Admin and Logs are being reduced to single figure numbers of courses per year from around 25. Getting a job with RAF Plc will be increasingly difficult.
I wonder if promotion will slow down like it did for the ground trades in the 90's.
Oh how I long for the good old days of the Women's Auxilliary Balloon Corps when the training machine was bursting with bodies and you could get holding officers to do menial tasks about the Sqn.
