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Old 1st May 2004, 11:24
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How were you "Chopped?"

Having just replied to a thread on another forum about airsickness I thought there may be some (rose tinted through time) stories about being chopped that might be worth sharing. I was binned at Valley and the first I knew was when my struckie wrote "DNCO Student Cat 5" in the Auth sheets back in Ops.

We also had a guy chopped on his famil who was about 6 feet 6 tall and his right knee kept on trying to turn off the HP Cock. Subsequently talked his way onto an extended Bulldog Course and then the Kipper Fleet I think.

Anyone else?
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Old 1st May 2004, 11:43
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Right knee and HP Cock ? Thought that, along with LP Cock was on the left ?

Anyway, got chopped for "failure to listen to instructions, advice, guidance and orders"

Or something like that. Wasn't really paying much attention at the time
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On the Hawk, yes. I dont think I made it clear that the right knee/HP Cock interface problem occurred at Cranditz on the JP5A.
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Couldn't navigate as long as he had a hole in his *rs*.

Needless to say this was before PC and other sex navigators. Also I don't think he was told to his face unless late at night in the bar.

Oddly they usually were quite cheerful 2 or 3 days later after the pressure came off.
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Talking

I wasn't a very good helicopter pilot

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I was worse

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Wasn't Chopped myself but .........

Had to deliver the final blow to a few both at OCU stage and later. It was never a pleasant task but I agree with Pontius once the pressure came off nearly every one of them was happier.

There was however one waste of rations who wouldn't accept that he would eventually kill himself and his navigator if we didn't remove him from the course. Even got his highly placed pa on the case and following considerable pressure he was reinstated for a remedial package - biggest waste of flying hours ever!

So Bloggs what did your mother call you? 'Cuddles' Sir. Well Cuddles you're chopped and Ginger would like your maps.
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My instructor wrote " Bloggs flies formation with verve, elan, enthusiasm and complete lack of skill." They didn't pull their punches in those days! Wasn't chopped though and later found myself in a couple of 60 (sixty) ship low level Albert formations. But that was back when we had lots of aircraft and they were all available to fly. Happy days.
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Old 2nd May 2004, 13:49
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Beat this - Got medically chopped at Brawdy, half way through Tac Weapons Phase (early 80's). Reason? - during a 1 V 1 combat training session on the Hawk, my right kidney exploded giving excrutiating pain. I 'knocked it off', (my instructor said it should have been a 'stop, stop, stop'), returned to base, and pis*ed blood for a fortnight. The Medical Branch decided to remove the offending organ and that was that. Grounded. The Chief man at CME even used the phrase 'you're chopped - bad luck'. However; 3 months after surgery, the medics decided I was OK to fly on 1 kidney! I was re-coursed at Brawdy and ended up on Harriers for 18 years, with a mid career sojourn on the Red Arrows!!! Interestingly, during my time with the Reds, a fellow pilot only had 1 bollock. If only the public new.

I'm now with a British Long-haul carrier, testing my remaining kidney to destruction downroute.

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Thumbs up

I too was chopped, but ended up in a different role still piloting on a another type - and I am grateful!!!! I've had a much more varied and interesting career as a result of that fateful 'chop'.

Can anyone else say the same?
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Yep, my lack of ability was realised at an early stage - to my benefit!
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Question

Nurjio.
how is it you know that he had one ball-or should we not go there ???
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I was told that I needed to show a consistently good performance through Gp1Phase1 on the JP5 in order to go to Valley. Unfortunately despite doing just that until the very end, when I flew the FNT I got a 1.

On a scale of 1 to 9.

Where 1 wasn't the highest score available.....

Still never been to Valley by road!
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Old 3rd May 2004, 18:48
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chinny - because he used to take his prosthetic out and play marbles with it in between displays!

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Red face

I was chopped 'cos I was hoop.
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Old 3rd May 2004, 21:44
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I was chopped due to regulary finding the best places at low level

Malham Tarn
Gamston Airfield
Leeds Bradford (ooh yes!)

And no doubt a lots of other places I never even realised (spent my entire time in the JP5 at 300kts looking at the fuel gauge, not out of the window).

Southpiece (RIP) was so correct in his debriefs. Just amazed it took him do long to hold the axe.
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Old 3rd May 2004, 22:27
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I'm reliably informed that if you bong Gamston from the south east, the tower faces the wrong way; hence with no traffic in the circuit they won't see you.

Good job the Tucano's quiet.....
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Eyeballs. The FAA over here doesn't have a prob turning me loosed with their MC1 though.

Over 40, still not even close to needing bifocals!
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Old 4th May 2004, 07:27
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I did feel very sorry for one of the guys on my Valley course. He had done his basic training in Fort Worth Texas on the Euro Nato Joint Jet Pilot Training Scheme (at least I think thats what it was called), then came over to do a UK Famil Course at Valley where he was chopped and sent to the Herc, while guys that he finished well above on the course in the states were posted F16.

Where are you now Tex?
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When I was on the RN MAOT, I asked the boss why he was chopped from Hunters in the late 60s. He said it was because it was a 600kt aeroplane and he only had a 200kt brain!
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