British military casualties in Iraq
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I cannot understand why you think it is foolish to state that the casualty count is not the real issue. It is perfectly obvious that if you are in harms way you are going to take hits and the coalition will continue to take hits because they went in with no exit strategy and still do not have one. Sorry if that is no comfort to those there or with loved ones there but that is the plain truth of the matter.
Don't blame me I didn't vote for Blair.
I cannot understand why you think it is foolish to state that the casualty count is not the real issue. It is perfectly obvious that if you are in harms way you are going to take hits and the coalition will continue to take hits because they went in with no exit strategy and still do not have one. Sorry if that is no comfort to those there or with loved ones there but that is the plain truth of the matter.
Don't blame me I didn't vote for Blair.
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What price in casualties were we prepared to accept prior to 17th January 1991, and thereafter in the Balkans, Sierra Leone and early 2003 just before we went into Iraq ? What number would be "acceptable" in any War of Attrition with diehards like the ones we are facing today before we wring our hands and call it a day ? That's the question Al Qaeda, Fedayeen etc asks themselves every dayand you could argue that the western media encourages them to increase the body count accordingly.
I just get cynical at the sudden exposure of flag draped coffins for some political gain at either end of the argument back home and the opposition take great comfort from the quite appropriate but misplaced angst and anger caused at the price we have to pay every day for our freedom.
Mugabe is yet another red herring, tyrannical old scroat that he is ! As long as the UN, most African leaders and OAU are prepared to indulge the loony old racist b d, why should we care ?
In addition, we should take careful note of Qaddafi's "sudden" change of heart having watched Saddam's last dental examination quite intently
They're all doomed I tell you, doomed
I just get cynical at the sudden exposure of flag draped coffins for some political gain at either end of the argument back home and the opposition take great comfort from the quite appropriate but misplaced angst and anger caused at the price we have to pay every day for our freedom.
Mugabe is yet another red herring, tyrannical old scroat that he is ! As long as the UN, most African leaders and OAU are prepared to indulge the loony old racist b d, why should we care ?
In addition, we should take careful note of Qaddafi's "sudden" change of heart having watched Saddam's last dental examination quite intently
They're all doomed I tell you, doomed
I don't quite follow your reasoning, Beagle, when you say "out of deference to those who have relatives and friends serving in theatre, I shall refrain from any further comment on this thread".
I have served in theatre but I see no difficulty in discussing the situation in Iraq in a forum such as this. Surely the free expression of views over contentious issues is the cornerstone of a democracy?
I support what we're trying to do in Iraq and I find the argument that what we are doing there is illegitimate because we are not prepared to do the same in Zimbabwe, North Korea, etc, somewhat spurious. Simply because we cannot (or will not) right all the wrongs in the world does not mean we should not try to right some!
I have served in theatre but I see no difficulty in discussing the situation in Iraq in a forum such as this. Surely the free expression of views over contentious issues is the cornerstone of a democracy?
I support what we're trying to do in Iraq and I find the argument that what we are doing there is illegitimate because we are not prepared to do the same in Zimbabwe, North Korea, etc, somewhat spurious. Simply because we cannot (or will not) right all the wrongs in the world does not mean we should not try to right some!
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I support what we're trying to do in Iraq and I find the argument that what we are doing there is illegitimate because we are not prepared to do the same in Zimbabwe, North Korea, etc, somewhat spurious. Simply because we cannot (or will not) right all the wrongs in the world does not mean we should not try to right some!
I'm one of the RAF medevacs...
- for a dental problem, reported before mobilisation
- repaired by the spams at my request while in Kuwait prior to kick-off
- they refused to repair again after "major combat operations" were over
- result, return to UK, where the NHS took until THIS February to fix
- Aeromed was great, but I felt a fraud
(at least the wartime job was done by then).
- for a dental problem, reported before mobilisation
- repaired by the spams at my request while in Kuwait prior to kick-off
- they refused to repair again after "major combat operations" were over
- result, return to UK, where the NHS took until THIS February to fix
- Aeromed was great, but I felt a fraud
(at least the wartime job was done by then).