Army Pilots are great
The real ZH875 is a J model C130 Hercules. The tone of the comments would suggest a Crew Chief assuming that they still carry such things, or a frustrated WSOp. I`ll go for the first one:
Nah, not a crew chief/ ground eng; the GEs on the J are all top blokes and there is mutual respect between them and the crews
I am perfectly well balanced and have no chips on my shoulder. I never wanted to be a flier. I am simply a well qualified and professional groundcrew erk, without whom the food off the J would have to find its way to a landfill site.
All growbag wearers do a very useful job, even if some of the jobs do not actually produce anything useful, and could be better done by a scribbly SAC from gen office.
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Cha Ching,
Me thinks that Bill O Average was bored one early morning and had a few too many of the Brandy things and thought I know,
" Lets see wot me can stir up on the old PPrune."
It never fails to get transpire into a cat and dog thingy ma jig but me must concur that the Green Machine is very much superior and us minnions of NCO Aircrew are far better than most.
Happy Easter to you all.
Me thinks that Bill O Average was bored one early morning and had a few too many of the Brandy things and thought I know,
" Lets see wot me can stir up on the old PPrune."
It never fails to get transpire into a cat and dog thingy ma jig but me must concur that the Green Machine is very much superior and us minnions of NCO Aircrew are far better than most.
Happy Easter to you all.
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While all you big girls blouses witter on about who has the biggest shiniest todger, may I just, for those who are unsure of the exact situation, remind you that Her Majesty's Corps Royal Marines has provided some of the finest and direst examples of the heli-pad lizard known to aviation.
Resplendent in flameproof nomex, this colossus of the airways beams luxuriently at any spare totty, dazzling them with his off-white teeth, fixed grin (a result of the recent vasectomy) and stifles their immature giggles with the unsuppressed stench of his garlic burger lunch.
Soon enticed from the hallowed portals of his squalid existence by the lure of beads and mirrors, he initially fails the test of that fictitious character CeeAyAy, and has to resit one inconsequential subject, in a place known to the Cavalry as 'Town'. Whereupon he will wait in abject misery until receipt of a small piece of Chamberlinesque paper advises he has attained the lowest of life form ranks outwith the service. Our hero now exits the serenity of the RM and wanders like a nomad amongst groups of lost sheep; all missing the happiness they eschewed for the benefits of a car that starts, and a house with central heating.
Bill, if you were an AG in '77/'78 PM me!
Resplendent in flameproof nomex, this colossus of the airways beams luxuriently at any spare totty, dazzling them with his off-white teeth, fixed grin (a result of the recent vasectomy) and stifles their immature giggles with the unsuppressed stench of his garlic burger lunch.
Soon enticed from the hallowed portals of his squalid existence by the lure of beads and mirrors, he initially fails the test of that fictitious character CeeAyAy, and has to resit one inconsequential subject, in a place known to the Cavalry as 'Town'. Whereupon he will wait in abject misery until receipt of a small piece of Chamberlinesque paper advises he has attained the lowest of life form ranks outwith the service. Our hero now exits the serenity of the RM and wanders like a nomad amongst groups of lost sheep; all missing the happiness they eschewed for the benefits of a car that starts, and a house with central heating.
Bill, if you were an AG in '77/'78 PM me!
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Chicken Leg- can only agree with you. Most all ex mil pilots will grow into civil pilots.
Not many ex NCO AAC /RM Pilots find good jobs when they leave the service. Maybe this is down to lack of IFR experience I don't know, but do know of an ex AAC knocker Pilot who F----d up at least two sim assessments. The individual concerned was so disallusioned with flying a civil Air Ambulance, that the person rejoined the world of tieny wieny airways. Sad.
Not many ex NCO AAC /RM Pilots find good jobs when they leave the service. Maybe this is down to lack of IFR experience I don't know, but do know of an ex AAC knocker Pilot who F----d up at least two sim assessments. The individual concerned was so disallusioned with flying a civil Air Ambulance, that the person rejoined the world of tieny wieny airways. Sad.
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"Not many ex NCO AAC /RM Pilots find good jobs when they leave the service."
Bit of a sweeping statement, Holer. It would be interesting to hear what you base this on? Or are you looking for the usual?
Its not a sad thread IMHO, at least we are opening some interesting debate. And at least it's not wannabe or doom and gloom thread.
Bit of a sweeping statement, Holer. It would be interesting to hear what you base this on? Or are you looking for the usual?
Its not a sad thread IMHO, at least we are opening some interesting debate. And at least it's not wannabe or doom and gloom thread.
"Not many ex NCO AAC /RM Pilots find good jobs when they leave the service."
ALL the Pilots from the RM side of life that I know (20 yrs worth) are all flying in civvy Street, the flying varies from N. Sea Training Captains, Long Haul,and Police nearly all have full IR's both Rotary and FW.
Don't know what you call a good job but that lot covers my needs.
Are all Pprune threads just turning into an inter service slagging matches? I only post on a rare occassion and I am slowly coming to the conclusion that it isn't really worth looking at this site.
If this is what you want from a site then good luck guys.
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So what happened to the famous/infamous aviation sense of humour? There are some dire things going on in this world; if all you can do is moan about threads and ask the prefects to bin those you deem unsatisfactory perhaps you are in the wrong place.
Obviously my warped and devious mind is better suited to the seamier side of life.
Holer, out here in the real world everybody needs an IR to fly the N Sea. It's not a great mystery, just needs application and training. It's virtually all ex-service drivers, and many are ex Army/RM. Having taught on the Tiger Sim for 5 years I can assure you that the Green Machine drivers more than hold their own in terms of IF ability and cockpit management. The Matelots find it unusual landing on decks that don't move, but adapt, while the Crabs take longer than others to fit in; they need a new orifice to be reamed, it overcomes the anal retentiveness they find so comforting.
I remain Sirs your incorrigible BarSteward.
No I don't I'm binning my membership, can't be arsed with the witterings of shiny heads. Hasta Luego
Obviously my warped and devious mind is better suited to the seamier side of life.
Holer, out here in the real world everybody needs an IR to fly the N Sea. It's not a great mystery, just needs application and training. It's virtually all ex-service drivers, and many are ex Army/RM. Having taught on the Tiger Sim for 5 years I can assure you that the Green Machine drivers more than hold their own in terms of IF ability and cockpit management. The Matelots find it unusual landing on decks that don't move, but adapt, while the Crabs take longer than others to fit in; they need a new orifice to be reamed, it overcomes the anal retentiveness they find so comforting.
I remain Sirs your incorrigible BarSteward.
No I don't I'm binning my membership, can't be arsed with the witterings of shiny heads. Hasta Luego
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I love you all...., no...., really I do ;-) We are on the same side here aren't we? Why is there never (or at least rarely) this level of hostility when we meet in the bar/on det/on ops? What is it about Pprune that brings this out? Strange.........
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Has anyone noticed that Beagle is basing his assessment of the AAC on a single encounter that happened 29 years ago?
And the ugly fend-off said "before or after the crabs teach you how to operate your shiny new radar equipped airborne tanks?"
I love this one, particularly because it's a variation on the ancient chestnut of "The AAC hasn't got the skills to operate the Apache because it's too advanced"
Yeah, the Army knows nothing about advanced battlefield radars and heavy-duty weaponry.
Wasn't the same said of the Lynx?
Bottom line is, there's good and bad in all our organisations. I defy any of you to think that everything's ok in yours on this fine monday morning!
And the ugly fend-off said "before or after the crabs teach you how to operate your shiny new radar equipped airborne tanks?"
I love this one, particularly because it's a variation on the ancient chestnut of "The AAC hasn't got the skills to operate the Apache because it's too advanced"
Yeah, the Army knows nothing about advanced battlefield radars and heavy-duty weaponry.
Wasn't the same said of the Lynx?
Bottom line is, there's good and bad in all our organisations. I defy any of you to think that everything's ok in yours on this fine monday morning!
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CR,
You must have had a wild weekend as you seem to have lost a day.
It is now " Tuesday ".
Rgds,
E5
PS: To all the easily offended - the above is " tongue in cheek "
You must have had a wild weekend as you seem to have lost a day.
It is now " Tuesday ".
Rgds,
E5
PS: To all the easily offended - the above is " tongue in cheek "
Avoid imitations
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posted 11th April 2004 18:19
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Why is the Air Corps known as "Teeny Weeny Airways" when we have more helicopters than the RAF and the Navy put together?
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There is a historical reason for this. The AAC themselves used to post zap stickers wherever they went, declaring " You are being flown by
Teeny Weeny Airways Taxi Service".
Or it might be something to do with the size of their choppers.
Interesting, all this Army "banter". I have teenaged sons who also behave in such a manner and love to talk big. Perhaps the AAC are wanting to join the adults soon?
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Why is the Air Corps known as "Teeny Weeny Airways" when we have more helicopters than the RAF and the Navy put together?
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There is a historical reason for this. The AAC themselves used to post zap stickers wherever they went, declaring " You are being flown by
Teeny Weeny Airways Taxi Service".
Or it might be something to do with the size of their choppers.
Interesting, all this Army "banter". I have teenaged sons who also behave in such a manner and love to talk big. Perhaps the AAC are wanting to join the adults soon?
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Er... sorry guys but i've always been lead to believe that the Teenie Weenie's were the RM Flyers and the AAC were called 'Zoom Boots' i'm sure this is in Surgeon CDR Rick Jolly's book "The Pussers Rum Guide to Royal Navy Slanguage" I'm probably wrong tho' as I can never keep a copy of this book long enough to read as my 'friends' keep 'borrowing' it.
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TWA and Zoomboots
From the hallowed learnings of Cdr R Jolly:-
Teeny-weeny Airways:
Junglie nickname for the light helicopters of what used to be 3rd Commando Brigade Air Squadron (now 847 NAS), based alongside them at Yeovilton, and also for the Army Air Corps
Zoomboots:
Jack's nickname for those Royal Marine pilots who were trained by the FAA. There were at least 3 such zoomboots among the 56 FAA pilots present at the 1940 Battle of Britain, a fact which most Crabs are ignorant of, and usually quick to deny. Their names were Lts Mars, Wright and Hay.
Teeny-weeny Airways:
Junglie nickname for the light helicopters of what used to be 3rd Commando Brigade Air Squadron (now 847 NAS), based alongside them at Yeovilton, and also for the Army Air Corps
Zoomboots:
Jack's nickname for those Royal Marine pilots who were trained by the FAA. There were at least 3 such zoomboots among the 56 FAA pilots present at the 1940 Battle of Britain, a fact which most Crabs are ignorant of, and usually quick to deny. Their names were Lts Mars, Wright and Hay.
The majority of AAC pilots that I have met have been thoroughly good eggs and good pilots; the majority of RAF pilots that I have met thought that they were.
Therefore I can only assume that it is a cruel twist of fate that Army Air Corps is an anagram of Sorry I am crap.
Therefore I can only assume that it is a cruel twist of fate that Army Air Corps is an anagram of Sorry I am crap.