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Old 8th Jan 2004, 02:56
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Interesting.......

There is a glut of Vikings so that would make sense.

I wonder who will be the lucky recipients of their Vigilants - I presume another school will be re-equipped/converted.

Any rumours as to who ?

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I believe all VGS's are undervalued and underrated, as I have heard many people say they believe that VGS's should close and the trade given to the AEF's.

This would be devastating, many of the cadets who complete their Gliding Induction Course go on to complete Gliding Scholarships, and then many of those go solo. From these cadets some will go on further until they too become instructors. They are usually the people who give up every weekend, work hard and show dedication to their Sqn. They could be chopped at any point, and go through numerous check flights with their own staff, CFS and ACCGS pilots.

Therefore surely they are crucial in developing new pilots and the future of our armed forces.


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Is there a Smiley anywhere with a basket of pigeons in one hand and a cat in the other?
As you don't seem to want the UAS anymore, why not close down the AEF and hand over all their aircraft and tasking to the VGS. The existing AEF pilots can continue flying the Grob 115 and the VGS Grob 109 pilots can aspire to move up the ladder and join them.

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Getting back to the core of this thread

A forum for the professionals who fly the non-civilian hardware, and the backroom boys and girls without whom nothing would leave the ground. Army, Navy and Airforces of the World, all equally welcome here.
Note all after the first 11 words. Just because you are aircrew doesn't mean you cannot spout [email protected] has shown that on many occasions!


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Old 6th Jul 2005, 15:21
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Looks like finger trouble there, mate, as your post has nothing to do with the thread, which is about the VGS!
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Old 6th Jul 2005, 17:31
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as a member of a vgs myself, i beleive what they do is outstanding,

yeah i don't quite understand widgers comment.

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Old 6th Jul 2005, 21:26
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2 VGS Gliders were involved in an air 2 air collision over Salmesbury. Be it a formation flight gone wrong or a genuine accident is unknown. Captains are grounded pending BOI. 6 feet worth of damage to one wing sounds like they are lucky to be alive. Both aircraft landed ok. Names known but inappropriate to go public, no cadets on board.
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It was an air to-air-photo shoot that went badly wrong.

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Haven’t been involved in the British VGS system, but in Holland where I grew up there was a similar scheme: the Ministry of Defense would subsidize membership fees etc. for civilian gliding club members of high school age provided they were fit (by no means equivalent of a military flight physical though) and flew a minimum amount per year (50 launches IIRC).

Some of the benefits to the services may be hard to quantify, but the cost savings in selection and training alone must have been astronomical. During the 1980s the RNlAF did their sums and found that of those gliding cadets who applied for flight training (pre-selection) a whopping 44% graduated as military pilots (FJ or helos). When considering the other applicants the usual slaughter of choppings and drop-outs emerged (about 1% or so graduated).

So what became of what must surely have been the most cost-efficient program in the Netherlands MoD? I’m timing this one...
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612VGS hangar very full last time I looked... 613VGS sometimes moved to Benson, I believe, but Benson also a bit too busy at times.

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