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Old 17th Dec 2003, 04:06
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BAE Saudi

Anyone have any idea what salary BAE pay for sim instructors in Saudi? Just researching options at the moment.

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Circa 60k but apart from the gov health warning on Saudi there's major chance of not liking BAE Saudi management much too.

Make sure you get everything in writing!
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Thanks - I assume that's £60k rather than US$ or the like.

As I've been with BAE for 7 years I NOW know about getting it all in writing (and re-reading, re-reading, re-reading to spot those little catches).
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Moggie,

My advice to you is to get in touch with the guys out there, a lot of whom would rather be somewhere else right now - not much prospect of things changing for the better in the near future, especially if it's Riyadh you're considering.

In my opinion (having "served time' there myself) you'd have to be extremely hard up, greedy or just bloody stupid to go there with the way things are at the moment!

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Moggie,

Prepare yourself. I think there may well be some incoming from Soddim very soon!!
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Yep, Echo 5, how did you guess?

Moggie seems to know what he's doing and that's more than one can say about BWoS.

I think Billie meant lbs not greenbacks.

I was fascinated to read this week that Dick Evans had useful Saudi contacts - bet they're rich!

If I was broke I think I'd visit DSS before Warton!
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soddim

I have BOTH eyes open. Having just been made redundant by the new owners of the former BAE business unit that I am at, I am in the position of needing a job but having some time thanks to the payoff.

If I went for Saudi it would most definitely be for a short time and solely for the cash.

Keep the advice coming chaps.
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Soddim,

Whenever I see BWoS mentioned on any of these threads I always sit back and wait for you to pounce. Keep them coming mate.

Moggie,

Best of luck if you decide to go for it.

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Moggie, please excuse me if you know all this already but, if you are looking for short term gain, you need to take great care to understand the tax rules. You need to get out there just before the start of a tax year because you are only entitled to tax free salary if you spend a complete tax year out of UK (minus 90 days for holidays). So if BWoS try to delay your departure ('we couldn't get a visa' is the standard excuse) until just after the start of the next tax year, you would then not make tax free status until Apr 2006.

Should you get fired or so cheesed off you need to leave before completing a tax year, you will have a lot of paying Gordon Brown to do.

Doubtless you will have looked at some of this - good advice already given to contact someone out there - you'll not get the whole picture from Warton.
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moggie, speaking as someone who is out here now, there beach has just re- openned again at Dhahran and if you can get a job - do it!! there is nothing to be sniffed at a 60K tax-free income. this year has been crap, but things are in the way up now.

sorry about the drug induced spelling mistake, i meant "the beach" above!
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Moggie, you might want to update your int with this from BBC today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/mi...st/3329397.stm

No doubt those there know best but my life is worth more than 60k a year to me.
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soddim

fair call and would never argue the fact that from the outside the perception of life in saudi is awfull.

however, living here life is not so bad with a big social life and fantastic weather, although it certainly won't suit the moaners or worriers.

For those earning 60K they can add another 10K for each child boarding plus a whole wack of other bonuses and benefits.

Moggie

If you have mortgages to pay and kids to educate there are far worse ways of earning that much cash. The tax year thing that soddim mentions is valid so you certainly have to commit enough time to make sure you cover a full tax year at least.

good luck
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I would have to say that life here is not that bad either with one exception.....Security.
If life was the same as it was ,say one year ago, then I think alot of folks would stay. However, four PC-9 pilots have recently resigned and I feel another 5-10 in the next few months to follow.
Pity really, as it was alot of fun at times, but all good things come to an end.
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Moggie,

Sim Instructors in Riyadh are all locals - so you may have to look towards the beach or in the boonies for sim jobs,

Cheers,

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Moggie,

Are you getting the idea? Would you really want your family living in a compound surrounded by barbed wire with APC's out the front? I've seen prisons with less security than that! Trust me matey, you don't want it!
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The worrying thing about the APCs out front is that, come the revolution, guess which way their guns will be pointing?
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Captain Sand Dune

Thanks for the input, but if you don't mind I shall decide if I want it or not!
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I think the RSAF may have an input into that decision as well!!
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Moggie old chap, you asked for input so don't get your nose out of joint when you get an answer that you don't like.
Perhaps you shouldn't have asked the question.
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CSD - you misunderstand me. Thanks for the input but once I have received that input, I make my decisions (that's if I get offered a job) rather than get told what to think.

Do you want me to tell you which car to buy next? I can tell you what I think of various models, but would leave that decision to you.

Don't get me wrong, input gratefully received.
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