Schumacher to race Typhoon
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Actually they had to run it three times; the first run was over six hundred metres and the Ferrari won by 0.2s! Best of three then! with the distance increased to 900m; ah, that's better - Bit like EU democracy really, just keep changing the rules and re-run the exercise until the desired result is obtained...
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The rain has had definetly the biggest impact on the outcome of the race. Performance of a formula one car is seriously downgraded on wet surface - maybe even the desired gum remains was missing on the taxi/runway -, while a jet has the same accelleration (depending on type even better).
If you remember the scientific formula from your high school you know that breaking coefficient (and thus accelleration) is about 5 times better on dry surface, and grip force is even changing per square. So if Schumacher won on 600 m there is a serious chance that he might also win on 800 or even 1000 m.
If you remember the scientific formula from your high school you know that breaking coefficient (and thus accelleration) is about 5 times better on dry surface, and grip force is even changing per square. So if Schumacher won on 600 m there is a serious chance that he might also win on 800 or even 1000 m.
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It would have been much more of a 'challenge' to have put Schumie in the Typhoon (alone), and Cheli wellying the car. Then next season's F1 would be interesting once more.
I saw the news report of the non-event on TV. As usual, it appeared to be loaded in Schumie's favour; I may be mistaken but it appeared he had a run start.
The Typhoon may be out of date, but it's much better looking than any F1 car.
Also watched Nicholson's programme about the SAAB Gripen on a cable TV channel. What an aeroplane! How on Earth did Sweden manage to develop that on their own, when GROUPS of much larger European countries cannot put together an up-to-date Eurofighter in less than 20 years? Mystery.
I saw the news report of the non-event on TV. As usual, it appeared to be loaded in Schumie's favour; I may be mistaken but it appeared he had a run start.
The Typhoon may be out of date, but it's much better looking than any F1 car.
Also watched Nicholson's programme about the SAAB Gripen on a cable TV channel. What an aeroplane! How on Earth did Sweden manage to develop that on their own, when GROUPS of much larger European countries cannot put together an up-to-date Eurofighter in less than 20 years? Mystery.
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Because Sweden/SAAB has a long history of designing and building their own jets, as a consquence of being a neutral. The Draken and Vigen springs to mind. They are very technological savyy, and perhaps most important of all, built it to the specifications of one airforce, not a conglomorate of several forces each pulling in their own direction, and each with their own political agenda. Not sure about the numbers, but belive the Royal Swedish Airforce has bought around 230 copies of the jet. The Chechs bought a batch, but postponed the order following the 2002 floodings. I belive the only other export customer to date is SA. Also belive BAe is somehow involved in marketing the export variant.
Mate of mine who drives F-16(MLU) for the RDAF was treated to a backseat ride on a JA39B. He would happily discard his General Dynamics for a SAAB ....
The JA39C is supposedly one mean 4th generation fighter, and it's in production - not a fancy concept on paper. Can do today what the Rafael / Typhoon are supposedly able to do in 3 - 5 years time. We should all buy SAABs
Mate of mine who drives F-16(MLU) for the RDAF was treated to a backseat ride on a JA39B. He would happily discard his General Dynamics for a SAAB ....
The JA39C is supposedly one mean 4th generation fighter, and it's in production - not a fancy concept on paper. Can do today what the Rafael / Typhoon are supposedly able to do in 3 - 5 years time. We should all buy SAABs
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Enjoyed this thread - thanks for the vid. link, BTW.
Here's a shocker: on a maintenance test flight recently, we had to do a full pwr t/o in a Boeing 757, so we decided to hold it on the brakes to about 1.3 EPR before release and time the accel on the g/s readout from GPS. Shaking like a schoolkid in M. Jackson's Neverland, it was...
0-60 kts in 6.2 secs on a digital stopwatch - not bad for a TRUCK.
So, I'm lucky enough to be the owner of a Ferrari; I decide to check out the numbers....
My 308QV will do 0-66mph in just under 7 secs, and that's caning it at 7500rpm; it has no traction control, being mid-80's vintage.
Makes the 757 look pretty impressive, eh?
(It has a pwr/wt ratio of nearly .5/1.0 at test wts).
Agree about the Gripen - ahead of it's time...bit of a wobbly test program, though. I'd rather have my Ferrari than a Saab!
Here's a shocker: on a maintenance test flight recently, we had to do a full pwr t/o in a Boeing 757, so we decided to hold it on the brakes to about 1.3 EPR before release and time the accel on the g/s readout from GPS. Shaking like a schoolkid in M. Jackson's Neverland, it was...
0-60 kts in 6.2 secs on a digital stopwatch - not bad for a TRUCK.
So, I'm lucky enough to be the owner of a Ferrari; I decide to check out the numbers....
My 308QV will do 0-66mph in just under 7 secs, and that's caning it at 7500rpm; it has no traction control, being mid-80's vintage.
Makes the 757 look pretty impressive, eh?
(It has a pwr/wt ratio of nearly .5/1.0 at test wts).
Agree about the Gripen - ahead of it's time...bit of a wobbly test program, though. I'd rather have my Ferrari than a Saab!
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"My 308QV will do 0-66mph in just under 7 secs,"
Good grief my Mondeo will do that!! and it only cost me £17k!
So what have we learned?? absolutely sweet foxtrot alpha
Same as every time - car has initial burst over a few hundred feet/yards/metres before the jet takes over.blah blah blah
BAe have had a large interest in the Gripen 'cos they new ages ago that Typhoon would be way behind schedule/over budget and the Gripen could be a far more attractive export success than the over priced, over tasked blunderfighter.Quite remarkable far-sightedness for such a sloth-like company.
Plus the pedigree of own-grown combat a/c has always proved to be a winner for Sweden and provided limited exports - why no one has bought second hand Viggens is beyond me!- what a machine!
Good grief my Mondeo will do that!! and it only cost me £17k!
So what have we learned?? absolutely sweet foxtrot alpha
Same as every time - car has initial burst over a few hundred feet/yards/metres before the jet takes over.blah blah blah
BAe have had a large interest in the Gripen 'cos they new ages ago that Typhoon would be way behind schedule/over budget and the Gripen could be a far more attractive export success than the over priced, over tasked blunderfighter.Quite remarkable far-sightedness for such a sloth-like company.
Plus the pedigree of own-grown combat a/c has always proved to be a winner for Sweden and provided limited exports - why no one has bought second hand Viggens is beyond me!- what a machine!
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Yup, modern cars have come a long way! Back in it's day, 0-60 in 5.7 was considered specfarkin'tacular, but now the 308 has aged just a wee bit....(and it's Veglia speedo is hopeless, so you're guessing what speeding ticket size you're about to get). 
Remember when the XR3 was considered fast, at about 8.5 secs? The 308 is the same era....(So is the 757, actually).
Remember when the XR3 was considered fast, at about 8.5 secs? The 308 is the same era....(So is the 757, actually).
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For those of you who may be interested Channel 5 plan to show the film coverage of the race on 5th Gear this evening (05/04/04) at 20:30 hours.
If it doesn't happen talk to CH5 not me.
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