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No need to worry about all this rubbishy fast jet stuff... a lot of people missed the fact that this 'cruise missile' thingy is also going to be hung off the AP-3C. Why bother sending a Hornet on it's 200nm bungy cord to threaten.....ummmm...... PNG out of Scherger? Lord Howe Island out of Williamtown? Oh, hang on, that's too far away...
Sure.... AAR will be the answer to everything....
Still - your AP-3C fleet can strike almost anywhere in the immediate region without needing AAR, and provide it's own surv/recon before the strike. And of course, they can run away bravely once detecting launch of bad guy CAP. Until that CAP lands an hour later, and they go back in again...
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Sure.... AAR will be the answer to everything....
Still - your AP-3C fleet can strike almost anywhere in the immediate region without needing AAR, and provide it's own surv/recon before the strike. And of course, they can run away bravely once detecting launch of bad guy CAP. Until that CAP lands an hour later, and they go back in again...
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Trashies stand and be counted
And while we're asking for new and better stuff...
1) Where are the three or four C-17's that we need for some serious heavy lift?
2) Will the light transport needs of the airforce be met by the King Air 350? Or have we leased a one purpose aircraft?
3) How long before we get some decent operations cells at Australian military bases? The New Zealand Airforce leaves us in their wake in this regard! Ever tried getting met and notams without airmovements around (so they can log on for you!)?
4) And as for this weather....
Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.
1) Where are the three or four C-17's that we need for some serious heavy lift?
2) Will the light transport needs of the airforce be met by the King Air 350? Or have we leased a one purpose aircraft?
3) How long before we get some decent operations cells at Australian military bases? The New Zealand Airforce leaves us in their wake in this regard! Ever tried getting met and notams without airmovements around (so they can log on for you!)?
4) And as for this weather....
Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.
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Fish-Head,
I admire your offer. Yes anything could conceivably launch a cruise missile or other VV long Stand-Off Weapon, but what do they all cost..... and what RoE will allow that??
While I envy your electronic ears and angle of arrival etc..
Until long range missiles are within budgetary cost, your P3 is still vulnerable against GBAD and DCA. Although you can run at a 'moderate' pace, your maneouvrability and true lack of speed will not allow you to get within striking range.
Beside, who wants to have a committee meeting to launch weapons anyway!!
At leasty you do have a future in the RAAF.....
I admire your offer. Yes anything could conceivably launch a cruise missile or other VV long Stand-Off Weapon, but what do they all cost..... and what RoE will allow that??
While I envy your electronic ears and angle of arrival etc..
Until long range missiles are within budgetary cost, your P3 is still vulnerable against GBAD and DCA. Although you can run at a 'moderate' pace, your maneouvrability and true lack of speed will not allow you to get within striking range.
Beside, who wants to have a committee meeting to launch weapons anyway!!
At leasty you do have a future in the RAAF.....
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LJR - Damn, there I was throwing a line out to raise some emotion, and all I got back was a fair and reasonable post!
GBAD defence can be helped with altitude (hence the ability to operate overland IZ even as we speak), and DCA - well, you guys can still look after that for us - anyway, I cant imagine a Hornet is going to do a lot of dogfighting as they run in with two 2000lb missiles underneath (using my extensive knowledge of air to air combat techniques!). Of course, if you want to get picky, our new radar is actually a development of a radar originally based in a F-16, so we can always engage the air to air mode and launch our AMRAAMs off the wing pylons. If the Nimrods can have AIM-9's...
The good thing about the committee weapons launch is that you get more "ace's" for each kill
As far as RoE allowing missile firings - there is always terminal guidance
GBAD defence can be helped with altitude (hence the ability to operate overland IZ even as we speak), and DCA - well, you guys can still look after that for us - anyway, I cant imagine a Hornet is going to do a lot of dogfighting as they run in with two 2000lb missiles underneath (using my extensive knowledge of air to air combat techniques!). Of course, if you want to get picky, our new radar is actually a development of a radar originally based in a F-16, so we can always engage the air to air mode and launch our AMRAAMs off the wing pylons. If the Nimrods can have AIM-9's...
The good thing about the committee weapons launch is that you get more "ace's" for each kill
As far as RoE allowing missile firings - there is always terminal guidance
